Love it all Jeanne, I went on conversations & tried to log-in since they said I was off, it keeps coming up that there is no GJF Ha! Sorry to hijack your post but I will be gone for awhile. Mom in hospital 9 days with AF & trying to care for dad(stroke 1 yr ago) at home. Bro. had to fly to East Coast for business. Other bro. came in sick-so it goes .I'm on my own except for DD some & lady taking care of dad some mornings(& snooping through the house!!) So I've got to stay there for few days~.~, talk to you all later & miss you! Jan

Here is my revised list: Revised 'Old Garden Roses' for Small Gardens Dream List (08/21/2013) 1. Autumn Damask (Damask ancient) (gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it. I like this rose because of its rose history) 2. Boule de Neige (Bourbon, 1867) 3. Honoraine de Brabant (Bourbon, age unknown) (gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it) 4. Maggie (Bourbon found 1980) 5. Souvenir de la Malmaison (Bourbon introduced 1843) 6. Madame Cornelissen (Bourbon introduced 1860 to 1869) (Thank you Ingrid_vc for the suggestion) 7. Beauty of Rosemawr (Tea, 1903) 8. Westside Road Cream Tea (Thank you Luxrosa for the suggestion) 9. Captain Harry Stebbins (Hybrid Tea discovered 1980) 10. Devoniensis (Tea, Foster 1838) (Thank you Ingrid_vc) 11. Francis Dubreuil (Tea 1984) 12. Comtesse du Cayla (China 1902) 13. Fabvier (Hybrid China before 1929) (Thank you Luxrosa for the suggestion) (does it have a fragrance?) 14. Green Rose (China prior to 1845) (I like this humble rose) 15. Old Blush (China Hybrid, 1852) (I like this rose because of its rose history) 16. Fritz Nobis (Floribunda, Shrub 1940) (not a OGR; gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it) 17. La France (Hybrid Tea 1867) 18. The Doctor (Tea Hybrid, 1936) 19. Marchesa Bocella (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842) 20. Barbara's Pasture Rose (Hybrid Perpetual, found rose) (Thank you Rosefolly) 21. Enfant de France (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860) 22. Duke of Edinburgh (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860 to 1869) 23. La Reine (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842)

Tenor_peggy , I spray my potted roses with milk and garlic and all the leaves look healthy even the HPs. I accept spraying because just about every plant I have (zinnias, vegetables, etc) have to be sprayed to reduce the pests and diseases. This Fall I might experiment with putting organic banana peels and cleaned eggshells (with a little cinnamon to deter ants) in the pots to see if the thin leaves will become thicker.

The bloom of your lovely white 'rescue rose' also looks to me like Lamarque, with those subtle lemony undertones, but I can't recall what the foliage should be like. I'm glad one of your cuttings rooted and appears to be doing beautifully. I also like that style of rhododendron very much, it looks so nice and natural growing there in the dappled sunlight. I often prefer more modest, closer to wild looking plants to their 'improved' modern hybrids. Sometimes less is more. I don't know whether I should tell this silly story, but once upon a time, my ex and I were driving down to Cornwall (SW England) with his parents, who were over from Australia. We had fun pointing out the various beauty spots and landmarks to them, and they were suitably excited by everything. As we got further south on this particular trip, enormous rhododendrons began to appear by the roadside, and I turned excitedly to my mother-in-law and said 'Oh, look Ruth, ----' ; my mind went a total blank for the name, and out of my mouth came a new word, 'Glub-Glubs!!' Everyone fell about laughing of course, and ever since, rhododendrons were Glub-Glubs in my ex family...