Good for you! I also love QAL, and I've been trying to germinate some for a few years also. I think this year I finally got it to work. I only hope I don't regret it, lol - keeping those horror stories in the back of my mind. I hope that because I will be cutting most of it, it won't reseed too wildly. Of course, I'm jumping way ahead of myself, lol - I'm not even sure if I will get it to grow this year, so I don't know why I'm worried about it taking over my yard! :) Dee

if QAL is a biennial primarily and u had a lot of it flowering the first year after prep work, u see my problem? and now u say u have a goldenrod coming up only 2 years after prep work. i would postulate on a reason for ur situation this way; rototilling did a total soil distruption and chopped up agressive perennials and others roots and stems and rhizomes, etc into a thick biological soup. u then proceded to kill off annuals and perennials with ur apps of round up thruout the growing season. but what may also have happened is that u mix'ed it up too strong and only topkilled some of the stronger and harder to kill longer lived plants vs easily killing shorter to live annuals (and their offspring cuz their annuals) that were easily rounded up. there is also the simple fact that one season of roundup sometimes just plainly doesnt do the trick on many spp. what remains is QAL and other 'stronger' plants. and this is where my original question comes up about what else is lurking there... as to ur comment before about taking out the goldenrod with round up. how and when did u go about doing that? because, not only have u killed that little area of goldenrod (if ur lucky, u killed it...) but u prolly also killed many of the little seedings that are trying to eek out a living under the cover of larger plants; ie ur seeded prairie seedlings. my suggestion is to make sure that u spray the goldenrod whilst in flower with a very fine 1.5% solution on a calm morning after the freeze date or just as the goldenrod is in full hight of flowering. after freeze date is less agressive and full flowering is a more agressive treatment. and as one moves up the agressive scale, one also moves up the side effects of the treatment. thats why i say that one has to pick their battles wisely, because many times the treatment is causing more harm than the surface disease. i would also re-seed these treated areas with the faster growing pioneering plants. because chances are better than not that all that is gonna come up after a spot treatment of a complete killer like round up is more bad stuff because u have already seen what is already in the soil and u have just sprayed away ur 2year old seedlings. round up kills green but not seeds, roots and other would be nastyies. nature abhors a vacuum and sumthing is gonna grow there...if u have 30 years of weed seeds and roots and others vs 1 seeding of prairie that takes 10+yrs to get moving... froggy

I know this is really old, but I just found it now. The pictured plants look nothing like the aegopodium I have in my yard, but I have the variegated version so might not be able to recognize the plain green one. An easy way to distinguish mine from QAL is the height (along with variegation). Aegopodium is quite short - 8" out of bloom, maybe 15" when blooming. Queen Anne's lace is TALL - I have 4 foot stalks and flowers in one of my perennial beds and they are one of the weeds wrecking it. It's fall now and they've gone to seed, so the seeds are sticking to my clothes like crazy. I have found NOTHING so far telling how to get it out of a flower bed. Hand pulling? Yeah, if you can recognize them when they're small. Herbicide? Not when they are in the middle of my irises and daylilies. Mowing? Uh... no. If I can yank them all out this fall - which would be tough because the only way is to dig up all the irises, daylilies and other plants in the bed - I suspect a pre-emergent herbicide might be the best thing, because undoubtedly a lot of seeds will fall into the soil while the plants are being removed. By the way, aegopodium can be controlled by putting metal edging underground around them, as it does spread by roots/rhizomes, but while the variegated variety is gorgeous, plain green would be deadly dull and boring.

It isn't Oxypolis, because those have leaflets with entire margins, or a few teeth (less than 7) per side. I don't think that it's Angelica, because those are more clearly 2-3 pinnately compound. The two best options seem to be Sium suave (1-pinnately compound), and Ammi majus (2-pinnately compound). Both have those sharp teeth. Zorba, take another look at the leaves, and see what you think. Ammi majus is quite common in zone 9, and Sium suave is relatively rare.