Home Baker Replacing Double Wall Oven - Please Rec Brand

6 months ago

I have an 18 month old GE profile that is acting up to the degree we are getting a refund. I'm a baker and use my oven every day for bread.

I don't want to be replacing my oven every 7 or so years. What brand is built for longevity?

Is Wolf worth it? Does it really last a long time? Looking at the M series.

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darbuka

6 months ago

Love our Miele double ovens…one is a combi steam, the other is convection. 8 yo, not one problem. They both pre-heat, and cool down quickly, and maintain an even temp. The fan is nearly silent. Highly recommend.

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Patricia Colwell Consulting
6 months ago
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I have a KA double electric wall oven it is 17 yrs old I run a catering biz from my home so the ovens are in constant use , I love that they are so well insulated the kitcehn does not get unbearable even in the summer . I have o be honest I am noyt ure about the new ones so nmany really good appliances have gone downhill. BTW I also have an all gas range and use my gas oven for bread all the time I love the ways yeast doughs come out in the gas oven
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Dana
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6 months ago
I"m not familiar with the reputation of the KA but I'll look into it. I agree about the degrading of quality. I purchase only Speed Queen washers for that reason. My last one has lasted over 15 years and still going.

I'm a little curious about the Cafe with the double doors. That Staub dutch oven sure gets heavy and I like the idea of being up front with those french doors.

The reason I was asking about the Wolf is that on their site, they say they are built to last 20 years. That just might keep me covered. I HATE constantly replacing appliances.
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dadoes
6 months ago
"Patricia Colwell Consulting: I have a KA double electric wall oven it is 1y yrs old ..."

Do you perhaps mean 16 or 17 years (per the number keys near Y on a keyboard)?
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
6 months ago
Thanks dadoes I did mean 17
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Sabrina Alfin Interiors
6 months ago
Wolf is always a good option. I'd also look at Thermador/Bosch, Monogram, and BlueStar.
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wdccruise
6 months ago
In CR's tests, the Cafe CTD70DP2NS was recommended and top-notch in baking and reliability. The KitchenAid KODE500ESS also did well, though its baking performance was one notch lower. Owners like both.
- Home Depot (Cafe, KitchenAid)
- Best Buy (Cafe, KitchenAid)
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Jenny F
6 months ago
I recommend a Thermodor with mixed feelings. The oven is great for baking. I have had to replace the computer board which is rather expensive. (A little over a $1000). I can get beautiful pies that are golden without burnt edges.
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dan1888
6 months ago
This YT channel may be fun for you to watch. (1) Proof Bread - YouTube

Gaggenau has a longstanding rep for baking ovens. Here's a post from bread forum Breadtopia . Link

"I have a Gaggenau Combi-steam oven and love it! It’s programmable with several percentages of steam and heat, as well as offering a manual on-demand pulse injection. It is one of my most favourite appliances now after we recently remodelled our gourmet kitchen.

Second to that, is the Irinox shock freezer and blast chiller and next is the large Gaggenau Convection oven with the extra large baking stone with its own element directly under the stone. Temperature is adjustable up to 572 degrees F. Awesome bread is much easier now!

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Rachel
6 months ago
I wonder if you have a lemon GE. I purchased GE for my new home now three years old. I selected GE because they were so reliable in my last home. So far, it has performed perfectly.
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Dana
Original Author
6 months ago
I've wondered that too Rachel. It's the touch board and the repair person stated he had had to replace a lot of those. The racks drag so bad also. Sometimes I can't even pull it forward at all.
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wdccruise
6 months ago
"The racks drag so bad also. Sometimes I can't even pull it forward at all."

Both the Cafe CTD70DP2NS and KitchenAid KODE500ESS have "roller racks" (Cafe) "roll-out racks" (KitchenAid) that easily slide in and out of the oven. My LG range has it: the rack is in two parts: non-moving rails and the extension rack that slides in and out on ball bearings.
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eam44
6 months ago
I’m alone in this, I’m sure, everyone seems to dislike Viking, but I’ve been baking in my sister’s new Viking ovens. I love them with my whole croissant-shaped heart. Beautiful browning, even heat, excellent convection - you may be beyond recipes (I’m not) but tgese are the first ovens I have used where baking times in recipes are correct in real life. And they are beautiful. They’re also shockingly expensive, so I understand if you pass on them. But wowza.
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