The subject has already been discussed in detail Here

Ben did you mean to link to something?

Case was dismissed...old news and such a silly way to distract from the real issues of the dead plants and lies they have told all year. BTW, i get plants delivered all of the time from Oregon, Heirloom has mailed me plants in the middle of the summer with triple digit heat in Louisiana and they were so well cared for before they shipped that they were in great condition 5 days later. the reason these plants look so horrible is b/c they weren't taken care of while in her possession.

Case dismissed with prejudice...

Original post looked suspicious to me. And it was. GRF must be paying a publicist ( and not a very good one) instead of running a reputable business.

opine, that's because Oregonians are awesome. Trust me, I'm somewhat of an expert 😂

Its ok. when i first made account I didnt know how to update. You will figure out how to change “HU-198802693” to be ”Grace Rose Farm”.

You are blaming everyone but still sending bad product and expecting everyone to say Thanks. 😡

Please send me the link to buy from Francis.

I'm sure this isn't the first time a retailer/vendor has had problems with a grower. Usually the retailer does not collect any money from customers until the product is in customer hands (e.g. at a local nursery or big box store, you walk out with the plant you pay for that day, that very day). If they cannot deliver what was advertised, Vendors refund customers or don't collect money at all, and go after the grower for breach of contract or other damages. Crop insurance may be involved.

Vendors take the risk because they have the opportunity to profit, customers do not take that risk because they are not investors who have profits to gain. GRF collected the money from customers months/a year before (customers already extended them this interest-free loan) they paid for and received the plants from Francis, and when things went awry, instead of refunding customers, are either not sending anything or sending an inferior product than advertised.

Lastly, be mindful these are one-sided, unproven accusations and on the end of receiving accusations as a customer, I'd not believe every word of the accusation.

If they stole the customer lists does that mean they also stole our info we provided GRF? If so why havent any of the customers been notified?

Kitty, did you lose any money with your GRF orders?

P.S. As much as I loved Menagerie, 2 out of the 28 roses I ordered from them this spring didn’t survive the summer. They only have a 30-day warranty, so that’s money lost.

P.S. It wasn’t GRF that deleted the thread; it was Houzz. As a platform, they likely want to avoid potential lawsuits from harmful comments directed at GRF.

Roses in Clay, THANK YOU!!!

i received GRF refund and was satisfied.

GRF legal Case w/ M. was dismissed by Grace, I see on her request form above posted. . Therefore, no oroof of any wrong doing by either party. Best not to continue to claim “dismissed allegations“ or opinions.

From my experience , GRF own root roses season 2024 were possibly damaged due to “surprise Polar Blast freeze March whole week 2024, “ no fault to anyone, may have happened in transit or at GRF.which had some growth damaged leaves & black canes resulting. I had same damage to some of my roses on property that freeze week, too as did many people across the nation. It only takes several hours for a small own-root 6” rose to have frost burn on canes or root damage which later turns into dried leaves & black canes.

Then GRF tried to grow them to recover which resulted in unforseen delays. Then the own-root roses were damaged again sometimes when shipped in later hotter June for me & hot weather shipping for others with wilted dried leaves. They were small own-roots roses. My GRF rose was about 6 inches tall, Notting Hill rose. My rose did not survive the shipping and GRF refunded me. It was a series of unfortunate events.

GRF is an innovative rose farm & florist with many positive possibilities.

Francis is the largest grower in the western hemisphere with a good reputation. . I would wish all nurseries well!

Carlos,

Try googling “April & Ashley roses…. “ for online sale now! A&A opened in January 2025! Francis partnered with A&A to give us farm fresh roses! He had florist bouquets & rose bushes for sale from European breeders. I ordered a White O’Hara bouquet and 3 florist types of rose bushes from A&A. Lovely!

The court”rejected-dismissed” GRF case vrs Francis.

Then GRF dismissed and settled her case w/ Francis.

I wish both rose businesses well and I am glad they settled.