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Comments (16)Delta makes a jetted shower unit (Innovations Monitor 18 Series T18230-XO) with two body spray jets that do not require any extra plumbing or drain set-ups. You can get it and the valve with an extra outlet (XO) for a hand-held shower application. We're putting this in our new shower as, it won't be in for another few weeks I can't comment on it's performance. It's suggested retail cost is $550 and valve is $225, however, you can find a much better price on-line....See MoreRain Shower Head & Body Sprayer Newbie
Comments (11)Rainhead. The term "rainhead" has sort of been corrupted over the years. You really need to feel the output yourself and figure out what type you prefer. In my own shower I wanted a traditional rain head. Simple water droplets, so to speak. Mine is a 12" head, and I do consider that to be the smallest size for a decent rain shower, and without a doubt, that is my personal opinion. You want the head away from the wall, so if you have a large rainhead, consider a bracketed or support arm of some sort, the added support can come from the wall or from the ceiling. Something along the lines of this: For your hand shower, have a hose long enough so you can spray down the corners of your shower. Body sprays. The same. Good showrooms have spray displays where you can feel the spray of water. Once upon a time I was intrigued by body sprays, Then I tried them and thought them to be the silliest thing ever. Some folk put in two heads, stacked vertically, one one wall. It's a little more common to want four body heads. Usually on two opposing walls, stacked vertically. You don't want them spraying towards the door. Usually chest and waist height, so figure that out when plumbing. You will have to figure out flow and hot water supply issues, from your water heater to the shower drain. Shower supply valves allow a certain amount of "pass through". You need to make sure each valve can actually supply the water needed to feed the heads that you want it to supply, or you could end up with insufficient flow. With body sprays, I recommend a "loop" supply to feed them, so the last head has pretty much the same flow as the first head. For your shower drain, it needs to be sized to the number of heads you have in the shower. Doesn't matter if only a few of them can or will be on at one time. It's a simple counting of the shower heads. A 2" drain can accomodate a shower with up to three heads. With four or more heads, plan on two 2" drains or a single 3" drain. If your plumber says you don't need to upsize to a 3" drain with four or more heads, he's not complying with code. If you want a "car wash" shower with five or six heads going at once? Your half inch pipe may not be adequate. Sure, with adequate feed pressure behind it it might be able to feed all those heads. But high water velocities through the tubing can actually erode copper from the tubing, potentially resulting in leaks. It's not just a matter of the 1/2" tubing being able to supply the needed water volume. You can crank up the water pressure and get volume. But cranking up the pressure to get the volume increases the water's velocity through the tubing, and again, too high of a "feet per minute" flow through the tubing can actually erode the tubing away. So do be wary if your "contractor" tries to soft talk away all of your concerns. Half-inch supply tubing can work. But it should work because your shower was designed to work with 1/2" tubing, not because, as your contractor told you, "everybody else is doing it". You can help yourself by drawing out a diagram of your shower. Doesn't have to be fancy. Each body spray and each shower head will have a GPM rating. Same with each valve. Make sure the valves and/or diverters that feed those heads can pass through the needed volume of water. Very basic numbers here, but 1/2" can comfortably flow about 5gpm. For hot and cold, that's 10gpm combined. For a comfortable temp out of the shower valve, that gets derated to about 7.5gpm of shower-temperature water. If your body sprays are 1.8GPM, four sprays is 7.2gpm for the body spray set only. You can figure different GPM combinations. Then figure that GPM out of your water heater to see how long your heater can maintain shower temperature. Oh lord. I need coffee...good luck! Edit: I never proof read this after posting it. Egads. Edited to clean up the weird formatting too. This post was edited by mongoct on Tue, Oct 21, 14 at 17:47...See Morewall mount faucets - where to put a sprayer?
Comments (6)Thanks for the feed back. The reason for a wall mount was that it is handsome and would add some period style to the kitchen. This is a 1920's house in a high end summer resort, so people expect style. I've already cleared out and painted the entire house, so it's fresh and clean. Everybody who walks through says it's charming, but needs work because the bathrooms are dated, the kitchen needs redoing and the house lacks central A/C. Nobody can figure out how to make the kitchen over. It has very little counter space and is awkwardly laid out. I'm considering removing what's there this week - giving the existing appliances to Habitat's Restore, flipping the layout which would make it more functional, putting in some new, ready made solid wood cabinets and an island, stainless appliances and granite counter tops, plus some school house lights. Basically staging it for sale. Honestly, whoever buys the house will probably tear everything out and redo it as part of expanding the house. I just need to show potential buyers what can be done because so far people are stumped. This way people could see that they would have a nice looking, functional kitchen to use while deciding what to do with the house. The house is already priced a million less than it's neighbors. It's a solid house in a nice area. It's just old fashioned....See MoreOutdated brick exterior & visible tuckpointing blend & update look
Comments (3)I just ordered a DIY kit from Masonry Cosmetics. They specialize in staining brick. Their website has a link to find contractors in your area if you want to hire the work out. My kit hasn't arrived yet, but the photos and reviews were enough to make me want to try it....See MoreRelated Professionals
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