Total width opening of 33" vs 36" Lazy Susan.

9 months ago

We are almost ready to purchase our new cabinets, but I'm debating between the 33" easy reach lazy susan or the 36" easy reach. I would love to do the 33" mainly because I would love to get a 3" larger drawer cabinet to go beside it, but I want to use the easy reach to store some bigger items I don't use all the time, such as a punch bowl, cake plate, crock pot, bread maker, etc. I know my instapot is around 8-9" tall without the lid, so I could turn it sideways to get it in if need be, but my bread maker is slightly over 11" wide and I just wasn't sure if it would fit (in EITHER of them.) Does anyone have a 33" (with approx. 9" bifold doors) or the 36" (with approx. 12" doors) that could tell me the interior cabinet opening width? Everything I'm finding on line only gives the dimensions of the doors, but not the diagonal opening width. Need the dimensions of where the arrows are pointing. Can someone please measure theirs and tell me how large it is for the size you have?

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Buehl
9 months ago
last modified: 9 months ago
I think the openings are:
- 33" x 33": 12.5"
- 36" x 36": 17"
But, I'm not positive, I seem to remember those measurements from years ago. Note that those openings are for diagonal corner susans. I don't know what they would be for pie-cut corner susans, which would be my preference (and what your drawing shows). The overall diagonal measurement should be the same, but I don't know how a pie-cut shape would change the access, if it does.

Hopefully, a KD Pro (or cabinetmaker PRO) will weigh in with definite #s.

Note that some cabinetmakers also offer 33" x 36", so you could have 36" on one side and 33" on the other side. I would think the opening would fall somewhere b/w 12.5" & 17" -- maybe 15" or so?
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G W
9 months ago
Pythagoras says the opening would be a bit under 12.75 inches. ( assumes frameless, will be a bit less because it doesnt accout for walls of box.)
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herbflavor
9 months ago
last modified: 9 months ago
I seriously think Id do this combo.....i have had lazy susans for a long time but the items you indicate would be better in a PULL OUT set up.....not so much REACH IN Best of all would be pull out in an upright vertical cabinet .....but the smaller footprint in the corner would allow something wider of a pullout nature to sit adjacent......pullout tray in a wider cab..or deeper wider drawer cab??? Your indicated items are very large..Id be concerned about maneuvering....

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Patricia Colwell Consulting
9 months ago
Please avoid the drawer type corners they are a total waste of space . I think you need to figure out what is more important the wider drawers or the susan. I would never store appliances in a lazy susan I iusually design true pullout panyties for my clients that can handle all of the little used appliances and the top portion for things like the punch bowl I like te popup cabinets for the mixer but only you know what you need and your KD is the one to get this help from, BTW not a cabinet salesperson. I keep my toaster and waffle iron in the bottom deep drawer of one of my many banks of drawers in my kitchen . All the base cabinets should be drawers .
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jackowskib
9 months ago
Perhaps you have limited options so going with corner lazy susan style, but I imagine it's located directly in the work zone where regularly used items are needed. I would find an alternative storage spot for the bulky items you mention, and get the larger drawers!
vinmarks
9 months ago
I have a 36 inch super susan. The opening from cabinet to cabinet is 15 inches. When you factor in the door it is about 13 1/4 inches.

Here is a picture of mine in comparison to an Instant Pot:
Hope Stewart
9 months ago
I have a 36" super susan corner with bifold door... the measurement of the opening itself is about 15 inches. On mine, however, the door swing/fold being next to stove limits the opening to 13 inches. So take what may be next to that door swing/fold into account to know if you'll have full access or not.
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Minardi
9 months ago
A 36" lazy susan uses 2 12" doors, while a 33" uses 9". But, because the opening is notched rather than full, and you have a 1 1/2" face frame there, the openings are a lot smaller than they sound.
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chispa
9 months ago
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Can you rearrange and do a Le Mans corner instead?
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Kimberli Saunders
9 months ago
The Lemans corner needs 48" in one direction, with zero protruberances adjacent. No appiances within 24" of the corner. Which is a good design rule anyway. But, the storage offered is less than a super susan, and it's more difficult to access than the hinged door.
AnnKH
9 months ago
I had small appliances in a super susan (in our old house), but they were things we used all the time: toaster, rice cooker, blender, crock pot. Bulky, less used things like punch bowls and bread maker went elsewhere (bread maker in the pantry, punch bowl on the top shelf of an upper cabinet). Corner storage - especially in the working part of the kitchen - is best determined by what you need to store in that location.
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mainenell
9 months ago
Do not do a 33” lazy susan. There are so many things you can’t get into it! About the biggest thing I can get into mine is a 2 qt. Casserole dish.
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theresa21
9 months ago
I really love the layout of my 36" lazy Susan. I store glass mixing bowls on the middle tier and stainless steel bowls (filled with root vegetables) on the carousel on the bottom of the cabinet. Lasagna pans and trays are stored on the top tier. It's called stagger shelving. The shelves are 18" deep and the full overlay opening is 15". I added the carousel to the floor prior to installing the cabinet, reenforcing it with a block of wood underneath the cabinet.

I store heavy small appliances in a pantry at waist level so I don't have to bend and lift. Light weight rarely used bulky items are stored above the fridge.

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