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Geschwind’s Orden - how big?

I thought I’d just posted this, but noticed that Houzz has unaccountably changed my forum name and no longer shows my zone. I’m in hot dry inland SoCal, zone 9b.
To get back to Geschwind’s, I saw this rose on the RVR site. HMF rates it as excellent in heat.
Ours is dry, extreme, and goes on forever.

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