A new rose, one of the first in years.

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I have a few roses bred in the 2000's that I am currently working on naming and propagating, after many years of evaluation. This one dates to 2006, a cross of (Sheri Anne X Out of Yesteryear) X Tradescant, now named 'Ivy Mike' It's an upright shrub to 4 or 5 feet, with dark glossy foliage and panicles of 3 to 7 blooms, about 3" each. The color is a deep velvet red with a purple/crimson overlay. Bloom form varies from very double quartered, to a less full double cupped shape, or sometimes a reflexed ball, depending on growing conditions and time of year. Because its a very dark color, it fares best when grown where it gets some mid-day shade to avoid burning. It's a very healthy shrub (in the limited testing here in the PNW climate). The one thing it lacks is much in the way of fragrance (as far as I can tell).

Anyway, I have propagated this variety for the first time ever, and I plan to put the plant (in a standard band size pot: 3X3X6 inches) on eBay soon. I'm letting you folks know in advance that this is happening, in case you're interested in the rose. Whoever gets it will be the first person to grow it, besides me of course.

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ingrid_vc zone 10 San Diego County
last year
Paul, I do believe you've produced a rose that is uniquely beautiful, one that many people would feel very privileged to have in their garden. That swirl of petals, that yellow center, it is simply awesome.
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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Gorgeous, Paul! I love your deep crimson reds.
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stillanntn6b
last year
It looks as if you've captured the health of Tradescant with the bloom-y-ness of Out of Yest.

Congratulations.
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Brandon Garner
last year
Paul- It is lovely. For those of us who don't know, how do we find your ebay page/shop/whatever it is called?
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berrypiez6b
last year
WOW !

That's a dream rose, you did it again.

Beautiful photos.
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erasmus_gw
last year
Love it!
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forever_a_newbie_VA8
last year
Beautiful beautiful bloom. Like an art piece. Congratulations
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last year
Thank you for your interest. I have not yet set up an eBay auction item for this rose, but when I do, I will provide a link to it!
judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
I love it, Mr. Barden! I always say I like pink roses best and then find myself over and over again drooling over the deep velvety crimson roses and feeling like I need one more. I would love to grow that one in my garden in my new half shade spot where I plan to put The Prince, Le Grand Capitaine and Florentina. Pretty sure I could find room for one more. ;) Watch that one bid way up once you put it on eBay!
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bart bart
last year
Yet again, I find myself wishing that Paul's roses would be available to me here in Italy,but I have never come across any European nursery offering any of them, alas!
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rosecanadian
last year
bart bart - same here in Canada. We're so close, but I can't get any roses from the U.S. Alack and alas.

Paul....what a glorious rose!! Your 2nd picture took my breath away!!! You did a great job!
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last year
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Update, September 15, 2023:

I've decided I don't want to engage eBay as a selling option for the rose, so I'm going to do a "silent auction" where you can send in offers and see where it's at in about a week or so.

I've made up a page on my Exposure.co site from which you can submit bids and review the description, etc. Please share this information with any friends who may be interested. Thank you.
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last year
You can view the auction page here!
fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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Thanks, Paul!.

EDIT: by the way, the auction page is gorgeous, lol.
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last year
@fig_insanity Z7b E TN Thanks, John! All I did was fill in a web template form. So much easier than the days when I hand coded my old web site. THAT was tedious!
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fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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...annnnnd, the first bid is in.
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And the second...... :-0
Rosefolly
last year
Oooh, that is gorgeous
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librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
last year
It's absolutely stunning.
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judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
I keep coming back and staring at those velvet petals. I am curious, Mr Barden, if you would be ok with the winner of this rose propagating this rose for others to enjoy in the future? Obviously, it would only be right for you to collect royalties on the sales. I feel like I’m sort of sticking my neck out by asking the question and I don’t know what your wishes are, but I thought it wouldn’t hurt to ask.
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@judijunebugarizonazn8 If the person who wins this auction wants to propagate it to share with others, as gifts, that's great. If someone wants to propagate the rose for profit, I expect them to enter into some kind of contract agreement to pay royalties.
judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
Thank you, Mr. Barden! That sounds wonderful.
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last year
Just a reminder that bidding for this plant ends in TWO DAYS, at noon on Sunday. See: Ivy Mike auction!
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Just over four hours left to submit a bid on 'Ivy Mike'. If you're considering it, don't wait till noon (Pacific Time) to get a bid in!
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The auction ended at noon today and I will provide an update pending final details with the winning bidder. :-)
judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
Well, I don’t know who the winner is yet, but I’m excited for whoever it is! I was sad to miss out on it, but I was gone with the family camping in the mountains where I had little to no cell service. Anyway, I’m happy for the one who gets it and I hope there will be more pictures and descriptions of Ivy Mike on this forum in the future.
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BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
last year
Congrats Paul looks like there was some good interest in your beautiful new variety. Selfishly, I hope the winner is someone who posts on this forum regularily, so we can have our progress updates.
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forever_a_newbie_VA8
last year
Paul, congratulations! I was a bit shocked but felt really excited and happy. Rhis beautiful rose has found a good home and wish it the best🌹
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fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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I made a bet with myself that it would go for at least $500. I woefully underestimated the rabid desire for Ivy Mike, lol.

Congratulations, Paul. I hope IM eventually finds its way into commerce. It's obvious there's a market for it!
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
last year
It is a beautiful rose. I am sorry we can't all be winners, but congratulations to the lucky new owner!
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Convivial Liz
last year
Hello! I’m Liz with The Convivial Rose. We are the ones who won this rose today. We’re a little new here and happy to meet you all. Really looking forward to keeping you updated with Ivy Mike’s progress; and making plenty of this rose, as well as many other uncommon and familiar roses available. Feel free to reach out!
erasmus_gw
last year
Congrats, Paul! Liz, I googled The Convivial Rose but didn't see anything. Do you have a nursery and website?
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judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
Welcome, Liz! Glad to have you here. We will all be eagerly looking forward to Ivy Mike updates from you. And yes, I too googled your business name and found nothing. I would love to find out more about the roses you carry.
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Convivial Liz
last year
Good morning! The website is still under construction, but we are on instagram at The Convivial Rose.
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Sharon z8b Texas
last year
Welcome Convivial Rose! Very happy to hear that you and Paul Barden made an agreement for making this available for purchase to others in the future! Beautiful, beautiful rose!!! Please share photos and updates with us.
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Sharon z8b Texas
last year
Oh, my. I am sorry to hear that. I have my fingers crossed that everything plays in your favor, Paul!
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
last year
Maybe, go to the next highest bidder Paul?
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fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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Oh, gosh. Sorry to hear that, Paul. Assuming the rose will remain small enough to ship for a while, take your time in making a decision about what to do. We'll be waiting to hear from you.
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judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
That’s too bad, Paul. I hope you can get this tangle worked out satisfactorily.
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last year
Update: I have sorted out an agreement with Liz/Convivial and the rose sale will proceed. Thanks for your interest.
Sharon z8b Texas
last year
Wonderful! Thank you for letting us know!
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fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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Good to hear, Paul.
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dianela7analabama
last year
Good to hear!
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judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
That’s good news, Paul! I hope the plant flourishes for Convivial Rose and soon gets big and they can start making babies off of it. And hopefully the babies will sell at a bit more of a normal price for roses, so the rest of us can afford to grow Ivy Mike as well. ;) I was telling my husband about this auction and when he heard what it sold for, he was so impressed that he asked to see the pictures of it. Normally he smiles indulgently when I fuss over a gorgeous rose but has few , if any, comments and doesn’t really look at the pictures, though he appreciates my gardening passion. This time he actually looked closely for himself and remarked that it really is a beautiful and unique rose, quite different than the average rose. Kudos to your rose breeding skills, Paul!
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rosecanadian
last year
How much did this beautiful (love those petals, the shape, the color, oh my!) go for?
fig_insanity Z7b E TN
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@rosecanadian The winning bid amount was on the auction page, but it looks like Paul has removed it. It may be that the winner didn't want it advertised.
Convivial Liz
last year
Hi everybody, I wanted to say I am sorry for any hurt or confusion the past few days. I feel like things have gotten off on the wrong foot. I apologize for that. I am planning to make Ivy Mike available, and hope to keep you all well informed with its progress. Talk to you soon!
rosecanadian
last year
Thanks, Fig. I was thinking it was a rude question for me to ask. But, I was curious. No matter.

Convivial Liz - good job getting Paul's beauty!!
judijunebugarizonazn8
last year
Good to hear everything is getting figured out, Liz. We will all be looking forward to seeing and hearing updates as you’re able to provide them.
MiGreenThumb (Z5b S.Michigan/Sunset 41) Elevation: 1091 feet
last year
Gorgeous, Paul. Fragrance aside, this is my absolute favourite "style" of rose!

Steven

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