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clematis “Niobe” help - brown leaves

Me 1 (zone 7b NY)

last year

Does clematis (I have the Niobe variety) like full sun (as in sun most day) or prefers a part shade location? I got this one a few months back but it only went downhill. Lots of brown leaves (as if burned). Is it a fungus that I need to treat with fungicide or find a shadier spot for it? I was told when I got it that I don’t need to transplant it yet and it likes full sun. It gets enough water. Any insights and advice are greatly appreciated. Also it will be in a pot. Thank you

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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

last year

While the vines themselves are happy in plenty of sun, the roots should be shaded. Or at least kept out of the hot sun, especially in a dark colored pot.

Can you site it so that the pot is shaded or shielded against the sun by groupings of other plants/pots?

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iochroma
last year
I agree with GardenGal. I would get it into a much larger pot, and shade that pot. Grouping other plants in pots around the pot is one easy method.

Feeding regularly will bring a flush of new growth. I bet the new growth will be healthy.
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Me 1 (zone 7b NY)
Original Author
last year
Thank you. So you think it’s too much sun and not a fungus of some sort?
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
last year
No disease.......just overheated roots!
ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
last year
the lack of available water is the cause of the leaf damage..

once damaged.. many things can happen to the leaves...

if you treat the leaves for the secondary problem.. you will not solve the primary issue...

tip it out of the interior pot.. and look at the roots.. snap a pic.. i suspect you will find that it is pot bound... shove it back in the pot.. while we develop some nefarious plot..

it is a perennial.. you might add that forum next time..

hide this pot behind some of your other pots.. so the pot itself stays out of direct sun/heat...

ken
gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
last year
" the lack of available water is the cause of the leaf damage.. "

No, it is not. At most, the leaf damage may be associated with excess sun or heat but in reality it is the roots being overheated. This causes the entire vine stress. A water issue would affect lower leaves first, then work its way up the vine.

btw, the Clematis or Vines forums would make the most sense for an appropriate posting venue much more so than Perennials. Any plant that lives longer than 2 growing seasons is a perennial regardless of its actual classification (tree, shrub, conifer, etc.). Most vines, including clematis, have much different growth habits to what are typically considered to be herbaceous perennials.
Me 1 (zone 7b NY)
Original Author
last year
Thanks all. Will try the above and report back
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Me 1 (zone 7b NY)
Original Author
6 months ago
Thanks all. As an update the clematis came the following year. Seems it’s doing well. Only one flower but better looking then when I first got it.

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