I need help with primary suit with laundry floor plan designq
My husband and I purchased a smaller house-a full remodel. We added 5’ to the end of the house to make the single carport area bigger. This is the area we are trying to create a primary suite with laundry(not stacked W & D). I also need the laundry accessible to the house not through our bedroom.
I would like our bedroom on the back of the house but then we have the two
3Wx5H windows on the front of the house either in the closet or bathroom.
The dot-ed line with a door to the dining is the existing laundry, it probably makes the most sense to leave it there. We could then have a door to the backyard as well.
Also, design needs to be ADA accessible. We plan to age in place in this home, both late 50s now but want to be prepared. Zero threshold shower at least 4’x 5’ shower, toilet in a WC.
Is this a fruitless dream, am I trying to cram too much in 520.96 sq ft?
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Comments (15)Thank you all for your comments. This is exactly what I was looking for. You all quickly picked up on the deficiencies of my drawing (missing windows, doors, etc.). I've updated it and zoomed out a touch so you have a better perspective on that side of the house. We are a family of 4 with two little ones, if that helps! bpath--I'm certainly not trying to compound them! The laundry is accessible from the hallway, not through the bathroom. The lone toilet is a bathroom adjoining another bedroom. Hopefully that's more clear in the new drawing. summit-- "Flip the tub and the shower to eliminate the orphan door that will bang into the tub." Good thought! That's worth noting. one-- "I don't think the other walls could accommodate hanging clothes very well." I was hoping to utilize the 11' (excluding the window) and the two 5'6" walls for hanging. Any reason you think that wouldn't work? KIBV-- "does the closet at the rear rather than at the for-front to the bedroom seem out of whack?" Possibly. The existing master bath is in the same location (it is the width of the shower and runs from the shower to the tub). The remodel expands the footprint into a hallway and closet, where the toilet/vanity is in the remodel drawing. The wall separating the shower from the toilet/passageway is an existing wall, as is the opening with the step from the bath into the closet. I was trying to design around these features knowing that we have a healthy but not unlimited budget and that other areas of the house need attention as well. But, that might be compromising too much! "What is the square room next to the main bathroom?" That is an office. Mark--"It depends upon how much clothes you plan to store in the closet during the time you spend in the house and the activities you plan to perform in the laundry." We don't have an extensive collection of clothes, so smaller/efficient closets and laundry are all we anticipate needing. "You need to consider existing site conditions, structure, roof lines, roof drainage, heating and cooling, tax assessment, resale value, ways of avoiding a step, window placement, natural light and ventilation, and probably more." Tell me about it! It's a lot to consider. I've tried as best I can to work with what the house is giving me. Another plan we are considering would essentially flip the bedroom adjacent to the master with the master closet/laundry area. But a closet with 10 ft ceilings and that very big window is not ideal either, and we would have to move the existing electrical panel as well. Thank you all for your input!...See MorePrimary suite addition layout help!
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Comments (6)Thanks so much for the comments so far everyone! One thing I should have been clearer about is that yes, they definitely plan to remodel the bathrooms and the primary layout especially (also with aging in place in mind). I think the things they're worrying about most right now are more general ideas on the main living areas (dining, living, kitchen/family) and wondering about doing things like moving the kitchen to a completely different area, or trying to open things up a bit more, etc. But all of your comments are so helpful and the bathroom stuff is really giving them things to think about that they may not have. So I just want to make sure you know how much anything you put out here is appreciated. <3 Individual comments below... M Riz: Yes, the primary bath is definitely in need of a gut and they will be doing that for sure as I mentioned above. It’s very Miami Vice right now with glass blocks and all, so yeah, that can be completely changed. My mom will not give up a bathtub, however. So she’ll probably do a freestanding one until she can’t any longer. She’s very stubborn. Not sure if you are referring to the primary closet on the right side of the house as tiny, or you’re looking at the one in the hall on the left of the house (that is small). As for the empty space in the one you circled, that’s my inability to figure out how to draw a closet into this floor plan so apologies! I do think there’s some empty space there but not to the extent I have it in this sketch. Patricial Colwell: Yes, that front room will be a guest room and my mom was wondering if there is a way to make it accessible from both bedrooms on that side (like a faux Jack and Jill). Or if that didn’t work, she was also thinking she would ask about having an entry to that hall off the foyer instead of at the end of the entry because she doesn’t like seeing the bedroom when you come in. Those are definitely some of the questions she has when we get professional help out there in person. As for the primary closet, not sure where another entrance would go but we can definitely ask about that. Thank you for the suggestion. And you mentioned you needed more information and I am happy to give it; I just don’t know what to offer in order to help. I guess I was trying to keep my original post as short as possible because I didn’t want to bore you guys to death. But I certainly can offer more info if someone gives me an idea of what kind of info would help. Decoenthusiaste: Yes, that hallway is really long and really dark, too, being on the side of the garage, so tightening it up is a great suggestion. Thank you. I am going to make a list of all of these things so we can bring them up in our meetings. Both shower and tub for now (see my mom comment above about tubs). And yes, they are redoing all of the plumbing in the house and they will be able to relocate things as needed. On the windows, are you talking about in the bedroom I assume? If so, yes, they do plan to change those up and also add a patio that connects all through the back of the house if they can (it’s a small lot which for practical purposes is great, but not so much for adding things). But that’s a good thought about access so thank you very much. That hadn’t even crossed my mind and it should have. Yes they have dogs (usually two at least) and a cat. :-) And on the laundry, I know my mom has been wondering if she could flip the laundry to where the powder bath is and have a door also through the primary closet, but the house is not that big so even if that didn’t work, it’s probably fine where it is now. Yvonne: You would think not! But they actually like having a big garage for some reason. I would have to check on city codes for the necessary garage sizes, etc., but we were told that there is probably some room on the right side they could take. Not sure about the left, but we’ll definitely inquire. Thank you! Again, thank you everyone. Really appreciate. Keep it coming if you will. We need all of the suggestions and help we can get at this point....See Morehouse plans- mudroom/laundry help!
Comments (38)The garage placement makes sense to us in terms of our shop, barn and other out buildings.. but it could be moved to the left side of house. As for the primary bedroom- we wanted it close to the stairs, close to laundry (and we also wanted laundry close to mudroom) and did not want to walk through kitchen/ dining for any of these things. So for our sq footage request- this was a suggestion for our bedroom. This also allows for a non shop/barn/ working area view from our bedroom Windows. The kitchen size, cabinets etc is not set.. but my request was to be able to see out to both front and back of house from kitchen/dining room area. The dining room size is the same as our current, which works for us… but I am wondering about some kind of storage by the back patio doors (shoes etc) if you have any thoughts? The back wall is a lot of windows. The foyer for the other entrance was by request of guests not walking into mudroom or kitchen and so people coming into the office space don’t need to enter the rest of the house. I hadn’t originally thought I wanted a designated laundry space or larger pantry but I’m reconsidering.. drawing below is rough thoughts. Like I said, we have meetings with builder and architect coming up. But maybe what I thought I wanted/ asked for is not good.....See Morehowistyle
10 months agoamyjpatterson
10 months agoHowistyle, I have not lived in the house as of yet. The house was originally a 3/1 and we are enclosing the original carport plus an additional 5’ added to the end of the house to allow for a new primary suite, walk in closet & en-suite bath.
PROJAN MOYER
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10 months agolast modified: 10 months agoI hear you regarding architect availability. I had good luck using the architects recommended by my contractors.
In your planning, consider that a washer and dryer next to each other in a hallway feels roomy and wastes very little space. Doors that push back into the wall are great helpers.
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10 months agoHi Jan,
yes primary suite, I hope this information helps clarify.
PRIMARY SUITE & LAUNDRY(maybe if it fits)
29.6’ x 17.6’, 520.96 sq ft.
l would like our bedroom on the back of the house but then our planned two 3Wx5H windows on the front of the house are either in the closet, bathroom or both
laundry room access from primary suite & access to the kitchen area no stacked W & D
all doors 36”W
Zero threshold shower
minimum 4'x 5' shower size
toilet in a WC.
marilyncb
10 months agolast modified: 10 months agoA couple of options. Depends on your priorities in terms of room sizes and location of back door.
marilyncb
10 months agolast modified: 10 months agoTwo more options with bedroom at the back. These assume you're able to add windows in the bedroom.
marilyncb
10 months agolast modified: 10 months agoamyjpatterson
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10 months agomarilyncb
10 months agoI think a WC would be tight in that layout. Especially if you want it to be ADA accessible. Here's another layout with a larger bathroom that would accommodate a good sized WC.
amyjpatterson
10 months ago@marilyncb This is really good too!
I made a few changes to the “move existing door” plan…cut and paste.😆I do not have access or knowledge to draw plans like you.
Could you please invert the “move existing door” plan? Husband prefers bedroom on the front.
marilyncb
10 months agoVersion 1: This is the inverted plan with the reoriented shower door (shower is 5x4) and WC. You would not be able to fit a 36" wide door on the WC (30" at most). The only window would be in the WC, unless you want one in the shower.
Version 2: I tried another version of the same plan with an alternate bathroom layout. It allows for another window, but same issue with the door width on the WC.
Version 3: This version has a single walk in closet and a much bigger bathroom with more accessible WC (36" wide out-swing door). I think it works, but it's a lot of space dedicated to the toilet.
VERSION 1
VERSION 2
VERSION 3
amyjpatterson
10 months agomarilyncb
10 months agoamyjpatterson
10 months ago@marilyncb we have it down it will be one of the last three versions.
My hang up is the 30’ WC door. Would it only take away 6” from the shower to make the 36’ opening work?I see that you are helping others too and I may have already exceeded my limit. If it’s possible would you do the floor plan? I’m trying to work out the kitchen now. We want the island as big as possible without making the mistake of it overpowering the kitchen. I to put banquet seating with a narrow-ish table & chairs on the dining room wall where the existing door will go away.
The hall bath is the typical vanity toilet tub(66”L) configuration. Floor to ceiling storage at end of the bath and a small closet with a door behind the bathroom door.
Please excuse my crude drawing. 😳
amyjpatterson
10 months agomarilyncb
10 months ago@amyjpatterson - I've been offline for a couple of days, so just saw your question. In versions 1 & 2 I used a pocket door for the WC. To fit a 36" pocket door I think you would need 6'-2" of linear wall space, which would really cut into your shower space. You could probably fit a 36" regular door, but it would swing out into the vanity area. I'm assuming the reason you want a WC is for two people to use the bathroom at the same time? If so, it would be awkward to have the door swinging out into someone standing at the vanity. For safety reasons, the door should not swing into the WC. I think if you're really set on having a WC, version 3 is the best option.
Personally, I would skip the WC and have a more space for the shower and vanity:
amyjpatterson
10 months agomarilyncb
10 months agoI'm not the best at kitchen layouts, but I'd be happy to draw up the floor plan and maybe others will chime in. Can you provide the measurements of the four walls shown in orange?
amyjpatterson
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10 months agomarilyncb
10 months agolast modified: 10 months agoI just submitted a long comment and it seems to have disappeared. I'll try again:
I want to clarify that I'm not a pro. I just enjoy creating floor plans and layouts. The software I use is called "Home Design Studio Complete".
Here's my attempt at the overall floor plan with your proposed kitchen layout with an island and banquette. The island shown is 6' x 3'-4" (15" overhang). I think it will feel pretty cramped with the dining table and walkway to the deck. It's also tight for stools at the island with walkway betwen kitchen and living area.
This version has a smaller island - 5' x 3'-1 (12" overhang). I think it's better.
Another idea - since you're putting the laundry in the new part of the house, you could significantly reduce or remove the room that is marked "pantry" and have a larger kitchen at the back (with wall of pantry cupboards on the righ) and living and dining areas in the front.
marilyncb
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