If you were my client I would try hard to talk you out of an island none of trhose walkways are ideal and not every kitchen needs or should have an island . BTW I never like kitchens open to LRs Why not post your to scale drawing here and see what comes up for a proper kitchen design .I assume the designer is actually the cabinet company's salesperson .

Hi Patricia,

The living room is actually going to be the dining area now and the family room to the right will be our living area . Not sure what you mean by posting to scale drawing. Almost 42 inches between base cabinets and island is not enough ? We are doing a counter depth refrigerator and it does not represent that here . I actually could set the island back and give greater distance between island and counters with sink and I definitely want more space from stove to island which I believe I can do with my current island size ?
You are right the KD works for the kitchen and bath showroom and I want to make an island work in this space

is the issue with wanting a bigger island about having 3 counter chairs vs two? (assuming 24+ in/per chair)

I am sure the pros will weigh in, but for me I don’t think a few extra inches on a large island would make a difference, but compromising on aisle width absolutely could impact kitchen comfort/ease of use - YMMV

A to scale floor plan is the floor without any thing in it. The walls you want removed marked every meausrement clearly marked and use graph paper it makes the whole thing easier to do. Then post here in a commnet in jpeg format My advice is get some real KD advice from pros who do kitchen design for a living .All base cabinets should be drawers and for sure the ones for pots and pans next to the range.Please DO NOT start another post .

Thank you for your helpful comments .
I wanted a few cabinet pullouts for some small appliances that would not fit in drawers and for pots and pans . I will have a pull out in the island and next to range, but I could change the range from pull out to drawers but they won’t be very big.
I’ve used drawers in some rentals and not sure I am sold on the all drawer for base cabinet concept

What would happen if you “anchored” your island to the 19” wall? I guess it would technically be a peninsula at that point. Then it could be bigger and you could have 48” aisles. I’m not sure what is around that area. Maybe post a full floor plan.

Thanks for your comments ! I’m
Using a counter depth refrigerator so will easily have 42 inches from island to refrigerator and base cabinets .
plan to move the island down to allow more distance between stove side and island than what her drawing shows because she measured 37 inches at right side from a wall that will no longer be there

Only the grey shaded areas on the diagram are a wall or cabinet run. Everything else is open to another room

Your cabinet seller is stuck in a 2000 era generic Home Depot design rut. They are not up on industry standards, or best design practices. They should never have made the island that big to begin with. It hangs over into the traffic path, depthwise. It crowds your perimeter work zones. A pull out spice cabinet and roll out trays are also worse storage choices than drawers. There doesn’t appear to be any support for any overhang planned,or the electrical. The angled corner black hole is the worst type of wall corner cabinet. The fridge door will have issues opening. 33”H cabinets? Is your ceiling really only 90”?

Counter depth refrigerator is still going to stick out few inches comparing to base cabinets. So unless you move island further away from base cabinets and fridge, you are not going to have 42" between. I have similar layout and I have 42" between island and base cabinets countertops but a little less to fridge (counter depth), which is ok but not ideal. If you make your island longer or move too much from range it is not going to be comfortable around fridge (with island behind your back) and the alley width shown on diagraph.

The top corner cabinet only has a few options !
The dead space like I have now , the angled corner that is in the design or the corner cabinet that has one door that pulls out. I was not crazy about how that one door opened and I don’t want the dead space I have now .
I would not be able to fit all my pots and pans in the drawers next to stove that will
Be only 21 inches wide
It seems a cabinet will allow more storage ?
Also I have small appliances that I want store in my island cabinet that will not fit in drawers .
In the island ,
There will also be a drawer microwave with drawer under and then a pull out for trash

You are showing lots of small cabinets that won't hold much. Better to have less cabinets that are wider. And all lower cabinets should be drawers. They hold so much more.

Additionally, that corner upper is basically useless. Better to have a reach in corner.

Using a counter depth refrigerator so will easily have 42 inches from island to refrigerator and base cabinets

Actually you won't because as mentioned, you measure from what sticks out furthest. On a fridge it's the handle and a handle sticks out about 2" so you lose 2". Plus a counter depth still sticks out a few inches so you'll lose even more.

And I agree that you really don't have room for the island as drawn.

Again, post a full floor plan with all measurements and we can hopefully help you.

I wanted a few cabinet pullouts for some small appliances that would not fit in drawers and for pots and pans .

Everything except my Kitchenaid mixer fits in my drawers.

I’ve used drawers in some rentals and not sure I am sold on the all drawer for base cabinet concept

If they're wide enough and deep enough (three drawer cabinets) then they fit almost everything. And the added bonus is as you age, it's easier to get things out of a drawer versus a cabinet.

That's my Cuisenart and my blender in the bottom drawer.

Pand in my middle drawer.

Stock pots and my wok in my bottom drawer.

That thing on the left is my ice cream maker.

How wide are your drawers ?
the biggest ones I have planned are 31 inches wide next to the refrigerator .
I Don’t have the room in the other 2 locations for any wider than 21
And 24 inches . The 21 inch next to the stove and 24 inch in the island could be drawers but are currently planned for cabinets with roll outs

And if anyone has the upper corner cabinet door with 1 handle that opens up with hinges in the middle of the 2 doors how do you like it ?

Not on a upper, but I do have the hinged door on a corner base. I keep lesser used small appliances in that lazy susan, although the ice cream freezer and salad spinner get spots by the door during warm seasons. CAUTION: Be sure the installer uses flat head screws (rather than domed) on those center hinges to avoid someone raking the screws across the adjoining cabinet.

** I will also caution you to think about how many cooks/helpers will be in the kitchen. If that number is more than one, you will be happier with 48” for your aisles. I have 42” cab-to-cab (except for fridge and oven that is smaller). I was hoping to maintain a path from garage that went through my only dining area to the rest of the house. With 2 cooks, the smaller aisles are a constant annoyance. And my primary regret about the design. (My KD was right, and I resisted.) Good luck with your project!