Taking over 4 minutes for shower water to get hot in brand new home
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Hot Water Heater Sizing and Running out of Hot Water
Comments (5)I have a Triangle Tube Series 50 (45 gal.) in a 2,000 sf house with 2 bathrooms. My plumber said I should put in a smaller unit and I wanted a bigger one. We compromised on this unit, because he said a bigger one would consume a lot more energy. I take a 25 min shower with a 5 gpm shower head, and I get enough hot water from this unit, but it took some doing. The first thing I would suggest is to turn the temperature on the water heater all the way up. We have an L-shaped ranch with the water heater on one end of the house, and the master bath on the other (over an unheated crawl space). So we need to keep the water very hot to get enough hot water at the bathroom. The hotter the water is, the more cold water you'll mix in, and the longer your hot water will last. Despite this, I was still running out of hot water after about 15 min. As my shower valve doesn't have a volume control, I put a small valve on the shower arm which allowed me to slow down or shut off the water when I was soaping myself. This allowed the hot water to recover a bit before I finished my shower. The real breakthrough came last summer though, when I had a new boiler installed. The installer told me that the circulator pipes between my boiler and water heater were only 3/4", when they should be 1 1/4". He also set up the new boiler so that the water heater gets priority over heat to the house, and the boiler automatically heats up to 180 degrees whenever the unit calls for more hot water. Now I have plenty of hot water for a 25 min shower followed by a shave, even without turning the volume of hot water down during my shower. I think you should be able to get enough hot water out of this unit provided you use it to its full capacity. You may need to have someone do some work on your boiler though. One rule of thumb I live by, is to never let a contractor tell me how much water or hot water I need. Aside from this, do you have separate shower valves for your 2 shower heads, and are you satisfied with the water flow? Many newer shower valves limit the flow to 2.5 gpm or less. You can check your actual water flow with a 2.5 or 5 gal bucket and a stopwatch. If you're getting enough flow out of the shower arms, but not out of the shower heads, there are some places that sell shower heads with easily removable flow restrIctors....See MoreWater Spots on Brand New Walk in Shower Tile Floor!! Send Help.
Comments (10)Beautiful shower. Perhaps they are flawed tiles that fall within the range of acceptable to the manufacturer. (I'm suggesting this based on an ad I heard from a local bath company that says they sort through the tiles and remove the ones that are acceptable to the manufacturer but not to them.) Personally, I could live with those imperfections. But if this is going to bother you endlessly, you could have the two tiles replaced. I'm not sure the grout will then be as picture perfect as it is now, though....See MoreDoes Tankless Hot Water Heater = Inconsistent Hot Water?
Comments (36)riellebee So I'm going to rough-in some numbers: Range: 15k btu/h Fireplace: 80k btu/h Furnace: 75k btu/h (x2) = 150kbtu/h water heater 200k btu/h (x2) = 400k btu/h Total potential load: 645k btu/h - again, an estimate. You can check your furnaces if you want to be be sure. is it likely that you would have enough things on at the same time to exceed your 425k btu/h service? - Yes, it's quite likely. What happens when you exceed the capacity of the service? The gas pressure drops and the range and the gas logs will just not run at full capacity - no big deal. But the things like the furnace and water heaters will throw error codes showing low gas pressure. The water heaters are likely to have that problem anyway, because at 30' of 3/4" pipe they are only getting about enough gas to run one of those heaters full tilt (the water heaters are variable input). The meter may be 20' away, but in actual length of pipe it's probably close to 30' including elbows. I can see close to 10' of pipe in the photo. The fact that the return line for the circulation isn't warm suggests it's not working. Fix that and insulate your pipes and your immediate problem will probably go away. BTW: Insulating the pipes is not expensive or difficult. Foam pipe insulation comes in 4' sections that just snaps around the pipes and uses self adhesive strips to hold it closed. It cuts with scissors. Even if you just did the exposed pipes in the basement you would reduce a lot of heat loss. My guess is that the builder can't really fix the "over-subscribed" gas service at a reasonable cost. One solution is to use a different water heater. A hybrid tank/tankless would solve the problem. The link goes to an AO Smith Vertex 75 gal water heater 100k btu/h and is 92% efficient and vents with the PVC vent pipe you have. I'm not particularly endorsing that brand - just using it as an example. It would provide you with plenty of hot water (you could run 1 shower continuously) and would reduce your BTU load by 300k BTU/h (gas service problem AND undersized gas pipe to water heater solved). In addition, because it's a tank of hot water - along with about 6' of hot water in the pipe - your wait would be significantly reduced even without a circulation pump. It sucks for your builder because it would cost them about $3500-4000 to fix it. They could probably realize some salvage value from the tankless heaters - say $1000-1500. But If they are only out $2-3k total I'd say they should consider themselves lucky....See MoreNew water heater gets cold after running bath for a minute or two.
Comments (15)If it was a dip tube issue on the old unit, the new water heater would have a new, intact dip tube and should have taken care of that. Is the water heater plumbed backwards? That could cause what you are experiencing. Looking at the front of the heater, the right connection is usually the cold water inlet side and the left is the hot water outlet side, it may also be labelled/stamped into the WH shell. Feel the piping with your hands as hot water is removed from the tank. Try a test: Have someone at the water heater to feel the hot water discharge pipe as water is run at the bath. Does the discharge pipe turn cool in coincidence with the tub water turning cooler? It should only go cooler after 30+ gallons have been used. If it cools sooner, get the plumber back to check things out. Is there a tempering valve near the water heater? Tempering valve sense the hot water temperature and mix in cold water to maintain a constant discharge temp to prevent scalding. Or, some set the water heater at a very high temp and use a tempering valve to give them extra gallonage of hot water. If you had one that was faulty, or set to too cold a temperature, you could experience what you describe. They might look like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Mixing-Valves-322000. Also, the tempering valve does not have to be near the water heater, it could be installed closer to or very near the tub/bathroom....See Morecatbuilder
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