Thank you again John for organizing the swap - we had a fantastic time - got so many great plants and have them potted up or in the ground. We are feeling alot more comfortable about being prepared for the swaps so plan to have a want/trade list started for the next one. I know already we will have crape myrtle babies and several kinds of hydrangeas along with sedums Getting the plants is wonderful but meeting up again with all you wonderful folks and share stories and ideas is the best and of course we can't forget all the good food. Thanks again - see y'all in the fall ..... Lynne

vicky- i don't want to dig up any of my plants, but they have lots of seed set and i could bring that for you. the lady i got mine from had lots of seedlings, so i presume they seed fairly easily. mine just haven't reseeded around much yet. dogridge- sounds great. we can get the boulder either in our van or pete can run home & grab the truck if need be- we live close to this swap. karen- the betsy's choice sounds great. i can overwinter it in the cool greenhouse and get it in the ground come spring if you think that would be wiser. unless we get rain, i doubt i'd out it in the ground anyhow. i lost too many newly planted things to the drought this year.

This is Vincent in Portland, Oregon, sitting at my desk at work, while the convention is going on only a few blocks away :( I did get to go out with eveyone to the local gardens tours yesterday, which was nice. LOL Jon, that should be "partially enclosed"- I didn't even bother to close the door to the greenhouse all winter, because cats and raccoons had already torn out a big section of a wall, and the heater had been doused by a leak, so it wasn't even plugged in all winter. The plants had some shelter from the rains and snows, but that's about it. Temperatures dipped into the upper 20s F a few times, and went to below freezing many times over winter. Our weather is of course colder than Sac., anything that can take the cold of winter and heat of summer in a greenhouse here should be hardy there. Here are exerpts from what I posted on gesneriphiles recently about the survivors outdoors. There are a few more not listed there, like Aeschynanthus 'Red Elf', which started blooming in the open 'greenhouse' in early spring in still-cold weather. Also Gloxinia 'Odyssey', which is resprouting, and there are lots of healthy looking undamaged rhizomes in there. The Smithianthas that didn't dry to a crisp last winter, and them mold when I watered, are thinking about growing. They always start late anyway. Unfortunately most of the Smith's tags were dumped out by animals and only a few will ever be labeled with certainty again. It wouldn't surprise me to see Smithiantha survive, at least some species and hybrids that are descended from plants from higher parts of Mexico & Central America with cold nights. =============================================== Posted May 12, 2005: "...we have very dry, low-humidity summers. Dry sun still didn't bother S. sellovii at all, and S. tubiflora only a little, from what I saw last year. Growing now after being in the ground since last Spring: Sinningia tubiflora (Full sun and loved it) S. sellovii (Full sun and loved it) S. "black hill" (Part-sun, about 8-9 am to noon-ish) It's too early to tell about the S. schiffneri 'red leaf'. It's near the "black hill" but I don't want to dig around it yet. Those are the only 4 I had planted outside in exposed ground. Hands-down winner for hardiness here is the Sinn. known as "black hill", formerly a.k.a. "aff. reitzii" I think? The plant under cover in the open-air greenhouse continued blooming all winter, right through the freezes, until I cut it back recently because it was leggy. (S. glazioviana did the same thing, but I hadn't planted it in the ground. I will this year.) The "black hill" in the ground died back almost to the ground in December or January, but a few inches of stem aboveground are re-sprouting. It's doing the running-tuber thing, too: It was put out last spring near an East wall in part-shade. Now there are sprouts 6-8" from the original stem coming up. I accidentally pulled a couple of those with weeds, before I realized it had spread!" [S. tubiflora also spread a lot, and sticking a spade under it was like lifting a pile of miniature potatoes! I even sliced a few in half that were further from the center than I expected] ======================================================= Posted May 15, 2005: "As promised earlier, here's a list of most of what survived the neglected, unheated, and rarely watered greenhouse, open to the outside air at all times. Min/Max thermometer said lowest temp was 27 degrees F; there were many freezing nights over a few months, I didn't count how many or how long. Everything marked "***" is being propagated for convention, and more that's not listed here! Not a great many of each though, usually 2 to 10, so don't leave yours at home if you're propagating the same ones. Species/cv. Result/Damage Chirita tamiana Medium. Discolored leaves, flower bud blast. Quick recovery. Ironically the bowl of 9 plants indoors died of neglect. [now blooming again] *** Chirita USBRG 98-083 Light or none. Some older leaves limp (Possibly too dry) *** Chirita gemella Light or none. Some older leaves limp (Possibly too dry) Chirita 'Kazu' Heavy. Leaf loss, slow recovery. Weak/attracted insects. [now in bud again] Chirita sinensis Light or none. Some older leaves limp (Possibly too dry) [now blooming again] Chirita 'Aiko' None. Held all flower buds & leaves despite dryness. Leaves turned partly purple but are all green again now. [now blooming again] Petrocosmea flaccida Light or none. Dormancy as small tight crown. Locals have been keeping these outside with only overhead protection for years. Petrocosmea 'Momo' Light or none. Dormancy as small tight crown. Primulina tabacum None, partial dormancy, some bud blast. [now blooming again] Hemiboea subcapitata None, of course. Went dormant. Nematanthus (all) Light to Medium. Leaf loss, some branch loss, but quick recovery if not dried out completely for too long. All of mine are gregarius/wettsteinii types, plus 'Stoplight' and ***'Black Magic'. ***Codonanthe gracilis Light to medium, as with Nematanthus. Codonanthe devosiana 'Paula' Medium, some lost. Probably too dry. ***xCodonatanthus'Tambourine' None, continued light bloom all winter ***xCodonatanthus 'Sunset' None. Aeschynanthus speciosus Light or none. ***Aeschynanthus 'Rigel' Light or none. ***Aeshcynanthus 'Big Apple' Light or none. [add: Aeschynanthus 'Red Elf' -No damage, resumed bloom in early Spring] ***Lysionotus serratus None. Flowered through some freezes. This is a beautiful and sturdy plant, if a little ungainly when unpruned. I love it. ***Lysionotus pauciflorus None. Flowered through some freezes. Also appears to have set seed- but pods were open and empty when I noticed them. [now blooming again] ***Raphiocarpus petelotii Light or none- some stems went dormant to soil level. Early recovery. Already known to be hardy. Sinningias are not considered damaged if they tops died back, but the tuber survived undamaged and recovered well. Nealy all grown with tuber exposed. Sinningia (various minis) Medium. Went dormant to tuber, some were lost. Surprisingly, about 3/4 of these are growing again. Sinningia 'Carnaval' Heavy, died back to below ground, but thickened stem part (almost a tuber) is still alive. Sinningia 'Apricot Boquet' None. Went dormant. [now growing fast] Sinningia lineata None. Went dormant. [now blooming again] Sinningia brasiliensis? x(?) None. Went dormant. Sinningia "black hill" None. Bloomed through freezes, until cut back. Sinningia glazioviana None. Bloomed through freezes, still blooming. Hoping for seed. One tuber is sending up many sprouts, will root them for convention as soon as tall enough. ***Sinningia cardinalis x leucotricha None. Went dormant. Young sprouts look like they might take root. Sinningia (cardinalis x leucotricha) x leopoldii None. Did not die back. setting flower buds now. Could be "Black Hill" rather than leopoldii, tags lost due to animal activity. Will know soon. Sinningia leucotricha None. Did not even die back, but flower buds blasted. [now in bud again] Sinningia 'Georgia Sunset' x self F3 various colors. None. Went dormant. [now blooming again] Sinningia speciosa (wild type from seed mix) None. Went dormant. --S. speciosa 'Sao Conrado' died though, Waaaaah :( S. tubiflora, S. sellovii None of course. Went dormant. Lived over in flower beds unprotected. Already known to be hardy. S. schiffneri 'red leaf' Medium. Died back to below ground, surviving parts slow to recover. Same story in ground, unprotected. Cutworms got this one too, should re-grow. S. ibitioca: Commenting even though dead- kept its foliage green late, like the other hardier ones, but then ended up under a drip where they rotted out. I'll try again when I can get more. All 3 of my ibitioca were still in one "temporary" pot together- dumb mistake! S. calcaria: Deceased- but same story as S. ibiotica above. Scaly Rhizomes: Too early to tell in most cases. Can't find rhizomes in any Phinaea, Niphaea, or Diastema pots. Some various Kohleria, Smithiantha were healthy looking but started to mold when it warmed up a little. No noticeable rhizomes in some Achimenes pots (including the hardy 'Purple King'!) - but A. misera SI 88-039 is full of fat, healthy ones. xGlokohleria 'Scarlet Letter' and xSmithocodonia 'Dave's Tree' have some live rhizomes resprouting. There were of course many more gesneriads than that in there, but I did lose a lot of them, and there are many others I haven't checked closely yet- there may be more dormant survivors. I don't know if I'll make a list of what froze out- too depressing! On the bright side, most of the cacti (no surprise) and other succulents (some surprise) were fine. The ones that died were under broken roof where they got rained (and snowed) on. Some other tropicals surprised me too, but I did lose my favorite Hibiscus and about half the Hoyas. Oleanders I got while at the AGGS Convention in Sacramento (Hey, did I mention there's a Convention here in Portland this year?) are already beginning to bloom, even though I discovered that they had been getting poured on and soaked for a good part of the winter too. ============================================================ Vincent

I have had one heck of a week, so I couldn't reply before now. I had a blast, too. We are members so we got in at 9:30. Needless to say, I made a beeline for the lady that had the $6.00 roses last fall. They were !!$5.00 this time. I got four: Gardenia, Rubens, Natchitoches Noisette (nack-a-teesch) and Variegata di Bologna. At that price, I just grabbed anything I didn't already have. Lol. All are listed as strongly fragrant which is a must with me. Unfortunately, two are monsters and two are only once bloomers. My strategy is to wait until I get a bloom, then decide if I shall keep it, where it shall go in the ground or should it go back to the ghetto til I decide later. This can be done at THAT price. However, having spent 6 months over at the Antique Roses Forum and learning a great deal, I have come to the conclusion that I must purchase those on my top ten list NOW! So I have been online ordering and have 6 must-haves on the way. While there I also got a fireball brom (thanks to some pics from this forum), a taller brom with speckled pink straps and another tropical hibiscus for my collection, Acadian Spring. Because we got there so early, I was able to pick out the broms that had pups. One had two! Love the sale and now I get to go back to the May Orchid and Roses Frenzy, (ahem...I mean sale....) Here is a link that might be useful: Acadian Spring