Thanks, Bass. Gosho is a different Persimmon? They put these 3 on the same name tag, Giant Fuyu (Gosho), guess I can get 2/3 varieties on one plant, maybe just the name tag. I did see one "giant" persimmon on one of the trees, it's fruiting this year already and ripening. The fruit was definitely much larger than what we bought from oriental grocery store (Fuyu). Many websites say "cut the persimmon tree to 3-4' when planting", wouldn't that encourage branching low? Why would people want to cut the tree short, guess they don't want a whip without a good root system, that only apply to bare root mailing order? If get a good growing tree in pot, I see no reason to cut it short. Also collected some wild persimmon seeds, think they are D. Virginiana. Will try start my own rootstock. This is addicting! No doubt. :) Nursery has them on D. Lotus only.

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Many Cyps are hardy well beyond zone 6...some are native to MN. But, they are more suitable to a woodland garden than a rock garden. I have wanted to try them for a long time, but they are not cheap and not the easiest of plants to grow.

Yes, I hate to say it, but you're asking way too much IMO for a used rug. They may still be able to get it at C&B for over $1k, but it would be brand new. They could prob. buy something similar at an outlet for $500.... You prob need to drop your price drastically if you want it to sell fast. GL!