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How can an old service panel cause breakers to not trip?
Comments (7)I can't think of a reason for the old panel to prevent the new breaker from tripping. It is possible that the fault from the lag bolt was not sufficient to trip the breaker. It was just close enough to the two wires to cause an arc but not enough current was flowing to trip the breaker....See MoreCircuit Breaker Tripping
Comments (12)You can check inside the fixtures, and at junction boxes you have access to. these are often common places for failures to occur. An actual failure in the branch circuit cables is not as common, but if there is a weak spot in old insulation even a nearby lightning strike can produce enough further damage to trip a breaker (and ruin a section of cable by producing a permanently damaged spot in the insulation). We used to use 'meggers' (mega volt meters) to produce high voltage to trouble shoot these types of problems, but most modern digital meters in resistance mode on a turned off and disconnected circuit are more than adequate for checking insulation for weak spot. This post was edited by brickeyee on Fri, Jun 14, 13 at 16:34...See MoreSquare D breakers very sensitive - Head scratcher!
Comments (16)Thanks for the excellent responses. Currently I can answer these questions. 1) Initially the service entrance voltage was 140 - 141V. Way too high. A transformer supplying power to our unit was changed and readings are now correct. Oddly, at 141V the tripping was just as frequent. I would have thought higher voltage would have lowered the Amps drawn, and there would have been less frequent tripping. Can this high voltage (for a couple of months during construction) have caused the breakers to become prone to tripping? Voltage is now correct at both ends of the run. No run is longer than 75 feet or so from the main panel. 2) I kept the nature of the equipment back as it might cloud the issue a bit. Yes there is an inrush as this is studio flash equipment. That being said, there is no problem using this gear anywhere else in the city (I have been). Even the 15A on the stove is fine, but even a 30A SqD trips repeatedly. The units plug in with standard 16GA cords. I have changed the cords to 15' 14GA heavy-duty high-visibility (orange and black) cords mostly for visibility. The equipment repair technician says a transformer charges capacitors and only basic switches and so-on are between the line-in and the transformer. No capacitors directly connected to the line-in. There is a 'slow' setting (or gentle) on the unit for situations where the units must work on non-dedicated circuits that already have significant loads on them. This 'slow' setting trips as often as the normal setting. Again, they work everywhere else (on normal setting), even the stove outlet. 3) Counterfeit: I compared a breaker to the photos in the article. #C is not identical. Most of my tab is exposed, not 1/2 as pictured otherwise they match. 4) Multi-wire branch: I think so, 1 Neutral for 2 circuits. A single unit can trip a breaker or several units at the same time can trip 1 or more breakers in no particular pattern. My previous set-up was 12GA 3-wire BX cables with 2-20A sharing 1 neutral with no issues. 5) The breakers are QO type HACR 20A. 6) An ammeter was put on the units. There is a very brief peak over 20A. It measures between 28 to just over 30A. There was some talk about this brief peak measurement being unreliable for an exact figure. A cheaper meter read anywhere from 20A-38A. A better quality Fluke was typically under 25A. The 30A SqD trips with the same frequency as 20A so simply swapping to 30A (even in the short term) isn't an option. Thanks for your knowledgeable responses and effort to help with this. Tom...See MoreReplacing a breaker
Comments (7)This is what I see as different. The Green one is a Combination AFCI. The other is not. "Both branch feeder and combination AFCIs provide conventional thermal and magnetic overcurrent protection. Both also provide high current or "parallel" arcing fault detection and fire mitigation for installed wiring and connected cords. The combination AFCI has the added benefit of enhanced detection of persistent low current or "series" arcing faults which mitigate fire hazards in cords connected to outlets." Hope this helps....See MoreRelated Professionals
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