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Lighting Design Dilemma

16ft Cathedral Ceiling Over Kitchen Island and Dining Area - Lighting

2 months ago

Newbie to this forum, but some experience and knowledge of lighting fixtures and design, now looking for advice.

Photo attached (second photo show view from living room (which has normal 8ft ceiling) into dining and kitchen)

New construction single family

Cathedral ceiling - 16ft at peak, 8ft at both sides

Rough in electrical already done based on idea of two parallel, 12ft tracks

Do 'not' want suspended or hanging or recessed fixture, like to have unobstructed view through

high trapezoidal windows.

Need to illuminate 4ft x 6ft kitchen island (includes two sinks, dishwasher, cabinets), plus surrounding kitchen floor maybe 3ft on each of four sides.

Dining area approximately 12ft x 20ft

Fixtures: Prefer small head, LED, black color, dimmable (Caseta basic Lutron dimmer wall switch)

Are there track fixtures available that enable indirect lighting too, as the ceilng is a nice tongue and groove knotty pine. I have seen some adjustable angle heads.

Any advice appreciated, and of course need to order asap.

Thanks

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Comments (5)

PRO
RL Relocation LLC
2 months ago
yes there are, two ways by using a very narrow beam spread in the light bulb itself or getting a track head with barn doors or shields. Personally I would have went with low voltage track heads that you could use LED MR 16 in for more options as far as color and beam spread. YOu would want a narrow spot as the angle will open as it falls away from the source. Also I would not go black id probably go bronze or brass unless you want to highlight that look of track.
KT Brown
2 months ago
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Original Author
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Thanks for your ideas, what do you think about brushed nickel color track and heads (looking at WAC Charge kit. (only available in black, white, brushed nickel, dark bronze

https://www.build.com/wac-lighting-h-8010-30-12/s1657792?uid=4109438&searchId=KCnd4IRF1p
Krista Deng
last month
Hello! Based on your requirements, I would recommend considering a smart magnetic track lighting system for your new construction single-family home. Here are a few reasons why:
1. Unobstructed View: You mentioned that you do not want a suspended or hanging fixture that may obstruct the view through your high trapezoidal windows. With magnetic track lighting, you can easily install the fixtures on the track without having to worry about cables or cords dangling from the ceiling.
2. Flexibility: With magnetic track lighting, you can easily adjust the fixtures' angles to direct the light where it is needed. You mentioned that you have seen some adjustable angle heads - this is a great feature that will allow you to customize the lighting for your specific needs.
3. Indirect Lighting: Yes, there are track fixtures available that enable indirect lighting. With magnetic track lighting, you can install fixtures with adjustable angles that can reflect light off the ceiling or walls, creating a soft and ambient glow. This is especially useful in spaces like your dining area, where you may want to create a cozy and inviting atmosphere.
4. Dimmable and LED: Magnetic track lighting fixtures are available in dimmable and LED options, which will allow you to adjust the lighting levels to your desired brightness and save on energy costs.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
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last month
WAC is great but again, getting a track head with a built in bulb is going to limit your flexibility. the fixture you are looking at has a40degree beam spread. that will fall away.

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