Why do you want a separate fixed shower head when you have an adjustable one on the slide bar? That's redundant. And in a tub/shower combo for kids, why would you want to supply two shower heads simultaneously?

Thank you both for the info.

@catbuilder, this is a kids shower, but my mother also spends summers with us so it's her shower as well. I believe I have stayed in hotels where I could run both the head and the bar at the same time, but it's possible that the hand held was directly connected to the shower head and had settings to run both at the same time. Why would I want to run both at once? For more water. If I'm ever using the hand held, it's nice to have the warm shower head water still flowing.

@Raimondi, I did end up finding this, are you suggesting this is not a good option? https://www.build.com/product/summary/1087948?uid=4355378&jmtest=gg-gbav2_4355378&srsltid=AfAwrE4iGlyXH21iMFCagdpXfUUc2NVNph1KE4Z1_sTO-8Ql691EmAa_dhE

Thanks again

"Why would I want to run both at once? For more water"

Then please learn how to be responsible and use less water. No one needs double the water in a shower.

@catbuilder, what an absurd thing to say. Do you pop into threads about large rain heads to tell people they are wasting water? Do you tell parents to shower their kids instead of give them baths? I don't remember asking for opinions about water consumption. People have a plethora of reasons for doing the things they do, and the ability to run multiple shower heads at once has nothing to do with responsibility or lack thereof.

@Raimondi

Sorry, I don't follow your last post. Are you saying what I linked uses a 3 setting diverter and therefore would not run both at the same time?

Thanks

I have a similar configuration. I wanted a high shower head for the tall folks in my family and a separate not-so-high adjustable hand shower on a slide bar that’s also rated as a grab bar - photo below.

I couldn’t find exactly what I wanted in a package so I ended up buying the shower head & thermostatic valve trim as a package; the slide bar, hose & elbow as a package; and separately bought a 3-setting diverter (can run shower head or hand shower alone or both together); tub spout with diverter, hand shower, and valves.

This site can help you figure out which components you need to put together various shower systems: https://faucetlist.com I didn’t buy through the site so can’t comment on prices or service but it was helpful,

@Patrick Green, There are systems out there that will do this in a more streamlined manner! Go to a good plumbing showroom.

Here is the one I did in a kids bath in my previous house:

- All in one Thermostatic valve, Volume control and 3-way diverter (this was in CA, so code allowed only one fixture at a time)

- Shower/Grab bar from Jaclo (notice how handheld is held further out from the bar on a ball joint, allowing much more directional adjustment of the handheld. You have to specify the ball joint or they give you the basic pivot holder)

- main shower head from Speakman

Need to dig out my files to remember the brand of the shower components ... if you are interested?

This is exactly what I want to do!! What is the length of bar? Which Speakman head did you get? There are 3 that I’m looking at and no one even Speakman can explain differences. I want a very hard shower not pinhead hard. Some people say less holes if you don’t want pinhole feel. Please help.

@Lizette W: "This is exactly what I want to do!!"

The hansgrohe 27143001 showerpipe and hansgrohe 26792000 showerpipe include all the required components with the exception of the hansgrohe 16181181 basic set. The basic set is the only part that's inside the wall and has no moving parts so anything can be fixed or replaced without disturbing the finished wall. IMO is also provides a cleaner appearance since there are simple controls and a single system rather than multiple components protruding from the wall.

@chispa I would love to know more about your shower components. That's exactly the setup I'm going for. Thanks!

Since i just got an email about a reply to this thread, i figured id share an update. we went with the moen doux UTS2611. this gives us all single or double options. for sure not the cheapest route as the diverter and rough in are expensive parts, but were happy with the result

@Patrick Green that looks nice! So the lever above the handle that turns the water on is what you turn to divert the water and you can choose any of the 3 faucets with that lever?

Moen UTS2611 Series Specs. The only downside is that because the volume and temperature are controlled by the same lever, the temperature will not be "saved" as it would be if the volume and temperature controls were separate (example: Delta T27959-BL Trinsic).

@DJ E, yes the handle on the top is the diverter. can run all three heads by themselves, or in any combo depending on where you set it, 6 settings possible. haven’t used any combination of the two functions at once other than making sure everything worked, but its nice to have as an option.

and thanks for the kind words on our finished product

@wdccruise, yes this is correct. however, since you only pull the lever out to control the flow, its pretty close to where it needs to be for the temp each time. some days the kids want it a bit cooler or warmer anyways so it would get moved in my home either way. for others, they may find that detail a nuisance