Bare root roses in large pots
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Comments (2)Yes to all your questions. Plant in as large a pot that you can handle. I use a tree pot which is as large or larger than a half barrel. I move it with a two wheeled dolly. J&P ships a large plastic bag with a wad of moss with their tree roses, or they did at one time. It's been years since I ordered a tree rose. Wet the moss and place it in the center of the canes. Place the bag over the canes and wet moss. I loosely secured the open bottom of the bag with a long twist tie. This creates a little greenhouse with high humidity and keeps the canes and leaf buds moist. When the buds begin to leaf you can remove the twist tie and allow the humidity to vent. After another day or two, remove the bag but by then it's probably blown away. I've successfully forced a number of tree roses and slow to break dormancy bushes this way. A thick wet sponge will work as well as the moss. Keep an eye on the moss and wet it as necessary....See MorePotting bare root roses questions
Comments (5)Thanks - I'm just about to drill some holes in the plastic pots. I saw some advice on the container forum about using the 5-1-1 mixture of pine bark fines sphagnum peat and perlite but as they won't be in pots permanently I'll just use rose potting mix and put some perlite and peat moss in. An annoying thing we get here are curl curl grubs, they love living in pots and eating the roots. I found nearly 20 in a pot of rosemary that was looking sick....See MorePrice of Potted Rose vs Bare Root
Comments (22)Diane, If only I could travel there and bring back plants! It sounds like a really good nursery. I wish my local nursery could have stayed in business. They were very good about taking care of their plants and would hold bought/sold ones for customers if we couldn't take it home right away. Kitasei, I think BayAreaGirl and GardenGal answered really well. I would like to add that band size and gallon size roses are usually pot-culture roses (started from cuttings) and they should come well rooted. I've come to expect that it's pretty much a given that most places will sell you a potted up bare root (grafted or ownroot) early in the year. These will generally come in 2-3gal pots. I think you can tell they were originally bare roots from how thick the cane/crown/top growth is compared to the size of the pot they're in. Fully container grown roses of that size would not be able to thrive in that tight space. The top growth reflects the size of the roots, or in this case - the size the roots used to be. Bare roots can stay in those pots for a while because they need to regrow their roots, but they should quickly outgrow them. Now, if I saw a rose for sale in a 5gal (or larger) pot, then that would lead me to believe that it's been in the pot for a long while and has a big root system....See MoreHow to amend soil for bare-root own-root roses? Any other advice?
Comments (3)I agree with Sheila - most of us use the opportunity of planting a rose to do some spot enhancing of the organic material in our soil. I agree that top dressing with organic material is the best long-term solution to improving the soil, but as a short term boost for the soil mixing in compost or something else organic has been very effective for me. I contrast beds where I have been planting roses this way for some time, and the soil in the entire bed becomes this lovely textured and rich soil that I can dig in with my fingers, while beds that I only top-dress haven't worked in that organic material very deeply yet even though they've all been planted the same amount of time. Having said that, you don't have to amend with anything if you start out with good loamy soil like you describe, so there's no particular need to do as much as you've done or certainly to add anything more. For me, the second set of additives is a bit more effort than I want to put in but it sounds fine being all organic and slow acting. The one thing you don't want to do in any new planting is add fast acting fertilizers which for me include most granular fertilizers. Biotone and other organic fertilizers break down more slowly and don't run the risk of burning sensitive feeder roots. I simplify your latter list and add just manure, alfalfa hay, and something to lighten the soil that I can buy in large bulk and relatively cheaply (lately it has been cotton burr compost). My preference is to add no more than 1/3 other substance to the existing soil, since you want the rose to get used to the conditions it's going to expect from here on out rather than getting hooked on any particular amendments at the outset. You've obviously been successful with 1/2 supplements so go with what works for you. I always soak bare roots and you'll find a majority of us do the same, and a majority of the vendors specifically recommend soaking the roots. The principle is to make sure the rose is adequately hydrated to handle the transition to the ground. One look at dried out husks of body bag roses indicates how important hydration is for bare root roses. Cynthia...See MoreDiane Brakefield
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