Hire a kitchen designer to assist your. Not one the cabinet place employs. An actual expert.

Some ideas.

Turning the island 90 degrees and adding a prep sink there may help.

I'm thinking the 8' eterior wall can be used for your plates, glasses.

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Thank you sena01! I never thought of a cabinet on that wall. It looks like it will make a nice u and give me lots of space for dishes. Is there anything wrong with the Dishwasher to the left of the sink?

Dishwasher will be ok, either to the left or right. I have one on the right in this house. Every house before, had them on the left . I dont notice any difference in anything.

IMO a walkin pantry with sunlight is not ideal. But then I do not like walkin oantries and why would you want to go out of the kitchen to make toast or use the MW.I agree you need an independant KD . I design kitchens a lot and they take some real thought to design for how you cook. How many people are usually helping in the space at the same time. How much stuff do you need storage for? How often do you shop? IMO it makes no difference which side the DW is on from the sink but it does matter where you unlod the DW to the dishstorage. I have all drawers in my main working area of the kitchen I run a catering biz so I have a huge anmount of catering dishwae and glassware stored in a space out side the actual working kitchen. All we need for our everyday life is in the kitchen. I try to not have any upper cbinets in my kitchen designs but of course depends on the space and my clients wishes. Daylight is not ideal where you store food ot all and for sure not canning. Really sit down and think of how you prepare a simple pasta and salad dinner , think of how you move in the space to do that. Was it easy or confused.

Thank you Patricia for your thoughts. My husband and I are empty nesters with four grown children, three in law spouses, and four grand children., with more on the way. We entertain 15 to 40 on holidays and birthdays and some Sunday dinners and EVERYONE is in the kitchen with a glass of wine.

So my current kitchen has the sink offset, but behind the cooktop with a four foot aisle. That works great for three days of canning (I can over 100 quarts of fruits and vegetables in September) and just me cooking. But the rest of the time, including with just me and my husband, we are bumping into each other because the cooktop, oven, sink and dishwasher are in the same 10’x8’ area. So I like your idea of a sink in the island. That makes the plan good for canning and good for separate work zones. I am putting a pot filler on the stove side. Would you ever think of putting the second sink there instead?

As far as the pantry use, I have lots of items that need to be out of kitchen, but accessible. Canning equipment, chafers, roaster, mixer, toaster(occasional use, 1xmo. Max), crockpot etc. I was putting all of those under the window on pull out open shelving. Then directly behind that full size cabinets with doors for food and paper storage, so not out in the sunlight and only doors are visible thru the existing window.

You do not want a seat across from a range. I would also turn your island 90 degrees so the range is across from seating, and add a prep sink. Your planned island looks way too big...is that 7' x 10'? That's enormous and will require 2 slabs. Max you want to go is maybe 5'.

You say you need upper storage for dishes? Why can't you put them in a drawer?

DW location should be determined based on the whole kitchen layout - specifically it should be out of the prep space. Nothing else matters as far as what side of the sink it's on. (Previous house it was on the left for me, which was arguably better for being right handed...but it was between the sink & range and therefore was in the way whenever it was opened. Current house has it on the right outside of the prep space and I LOVE IT - I can have it open while I'm prepping and drop dishes in as I go).

I'd also agree that if you can reconfigure the laundry to have the windows (and better venting) then you can have a pantry that doesn't have windows and has more storage. Not sure what's possible there.

I kind of disagree with the previous poster about everything. Pot fillers are nice if your sink is a long way from your range - but if you add a prep sink, which is a LOT more useful, you will have water right there anyway (I have had pot fillers at 2 houses - one I used all the time because my sink was too far away. Current house has sink across from range and pot filler isn't that useful). Symmetry is overrated. Having the DW behind you while you're at the sink does not seem very functional.

Absolutely a prep sink. Also you say you're an empty nester which means you're starting to get up there in years. Be sure to think in terms of how you'll work if for example, you need a walker at some future date.

Because I watched my Mom wind up with Parkinson's, when it came time to design my kitchen, I put the prep sink next to the fridge on the perimeter of the kitchen so I could just slide foodstuff from the prep sink to the cooktop. Much easier as we age than trying to bring it across the aisle from the island.

And I put my cleanup sink and dishwasher (on the right side) on my island with everyday dish storage on the left side of my sink. So I take dishes out of the dishwasher, and put them away on the left side. And my cooktop is off center but behind my sink so easy to turn and put dirty pots and pans in the cleanup sink, or dump pasta water, etc.

Having the second sink also makes it much easier when DH wants to help out.

Truly think about how you do different kitchen tasks.

Thank you anj_p for your suggestions.especially that my island is too big. I knew it was I just don’t know what to do with all of the floor space

Cpartist you always have great suggestions. I have seen you on other posts. I thought maybe you were a kitchen designer, but I went and check you out and it doesn’t look like it on your profile page.

Per NKBA guidelines:

In a kitchen with three work centers the sum of the three traveled distances should total no more than 26′ with no single leg of the triangle measuring less than 4 feet nor more than 9 feet.

The three main "work centers" to be concerned about are the fridge, the cooktop, and the main sink.

Thanks Sabrina! I am too far stove to sink. Still under twenty six. And both other measurements work. Guess a prep sink will take care of that. I think I will hire a designer.