Pine tree snow storm damage
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Severe storms winds 'loosened' one of my pine trees!
Comments (4)I'd agree w/Brandon -- good chance it's rootbound. First thing to do is to stake it -- additional rocking will only break more roots. Rootbound stuff has affected me too. Options are limited as the tree gets bigger. I have helped a couple rootbound trees (that I didn't but should've corrected at planting) that are now firmly anchored. But the first one I worked on, I killed, so be careful. Remove as much soil as possible around the trunk-base. Use your fingers or a small digging tool (even a toothbrush), carefully trying to limit damage to roots. A stream of hose water will help. Goal is to try exposing the root collar. If you do, you should see any badly circling and/or overlapping roots. Try to cut the most offensive ones, but too much cutting here can kill the patient. Another thing to try in addition to or by itself is to take a long knife & make deep as possible cuts thru the root-mass directly outward from the trunk, from within a half-inch from the trunk to at least just past the original pot diameter. Make 4 to 6 equi-distantly spaced cuts around & radiating out away from the trunk. This should slice thru at least some the the offending roots. A serrated knife is best since you'll prb'ly have to do some "sawing" to get thru the soil/roots. And your knife'll be dulled by the abuse....See MoreAny Hope for Snow-Damaged Trees?
Comments (5)hey dano.. i got so wound up on you telling him to surgically repair it.. i missed your caveat ... lol torn.. the inside wood is dead.. it will NEVER heal.. like a bone might ... at best.. you are allowing the 'skin' to heal.. no one argues that point.. but without the interior structure.. what are you left with.. well?? .. frankly a limb that will break.. when the structure get larger than the 'fix' can hold.. the 'appearance' of a fix.. does not mean it will ever be structurally sound ... its sorta like staking.. you stake to the prevailing wind ... so all devious planning aside.. what the heck happens when ma nature blows from the other direction.. well.. you are screwed.. just like the tree that has been 'repaired' ... and where are you then.. back to PROPERLY PRUNING IT ... and the base issue is peeps who think a tree is static ... when really.. its shape and form 'evolve' .. and one way they do that is thru ma nature ripping them apart.. and another way is thru pruning.. to avoid ma natures fury ... IMHO.. the best advice.. is properly prune off the damage.. give it a year or two to recover.. and then decide if its OK to your eye.. and if not.. get rid of it .. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER ... and if its NOT OK to your eye.. meaning it will bug the heck out of you.. then just be done with it ... please .. step down from the soapbox .. and shut the heck up.. lol ... [thats the voice in my head.. talking to itself.. lol] ken...See MoreWhite Pine Tree Needs Help - Storm Damage
Comments (9)Thanks everybody. The tree is about 30' from the house. If it ever falls eastward, it will in fact hit the house. We also have a lot of oaks and maples in the back which are very tall as well. Good point about the root system. I didn't think about that. Guess I'll just have to pray it makes it. Overall, it is a healthy tree. It just got whacked really badly this time. You should have seen me out in the blizzard with a long pole knocking the snow from the branches I could reach. Took a few "butt plants" and was "dumped on" a few times :), but it was worth it. None of the lower branches broke. As I said, I LOVE that tree. I'll call the County for an arborist recommendation prior to having it pruned. Thanks again for your help. Melanie...See MoreStorm damage to Japanese Maple tree
Comments (15)Thyme2dig, don't take my comments personally. They are only meant to address your proposal. And, IMO, using hose clamps to attempt to "fix" a broken branch or trunk is completely misguided and has a near-zero chance of working long-term. I hope it works (continues to work) for your tree, but the procedure flies in the face of reason if you consider how trees grow. The wood inside woody plants is dead. It will never every grow back together no matter how you clamp the split together. The ONLY way that the tree has to bind itself back together is if new wood is used to encapsulate the break. For this to have any chance of working on Lyssa's tree, it would require years and years of growth and a significant increase in trunk diameter. As the trunk grows in diameter, the crown of the tree would get larger and heavier. Even in an ideal situation, the area of the break will ALWAYS be much weaker than the rest of the trunk. As the crown grows, more and more stress will be placed on the broken area and chances of failure will increase. When we consider the fact that the trunk will have to put on a significant amount of girth, the deficiency of the hose clamp becomes apparent. If the clamp is tight enough to support the break, circulation in the trees trunk will be cut off and further growth will be impossible. If the clamp is loosened enough to allow growth to occur, it will not sufficiently lock the two sides in place for the outer most (not wood) layers of the trunk to fuse. Also, a loose clamp will likely cause further damage as the tree is moved by wind, rain, pets, etc. Like everyone else above, I think pruning or replacement are the best solutions. I STRONGLY do not suggest trying to save the top of this tree, but, if one was determined to try, there are MUCH better ways to go about it than using hose clamps....See Moreken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
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