Since you asked for views, I will say for the hundredth time how much I love my Bosch induction top, and it was not expensive. My kitchen designer pal says she is installing almost no gas ranges and that gas is over, from a design and utilitarian perspective, or will be in another 5 years as the US trails the EU. Young people want a sleek, clean look, and they demand energy efficiency. I can highly recommend Bosch dishwashers but racks vary so look them over. Decide, too, if you want that upper third rack. I liked my old Bosch's racks better but no disputing the quiet cleaning power of a Bosch. We went with panel ready, so there's another decision for you. It adds weight to the door but I love the look. Bosch ovens are excellent, too, and doubles are fab if your kitchen is large. I did not have room as I use a warming drawer a lot and my kitchen is small by GW standards. Too small for 2 large ovens + drawer. I was warned here to think carefully whether I really needed two, and to consider a Breville as backup, and boy has that worked well for me. (I roast a lot but rarely bake.) Our oven and WD are Electrolux Wave Touch - much beloved here -- and they are awesome. The WD will slow cook wonderfully. No comparison to my old KitchenAid I thought I wanted the micro drawer for its looks but that required me to give up my cat food prep space. (Nooo!) So we stacked ours like gooster ( except lift up) and I love it. Here is a pic. But we use the micro once per day on average so where it was stationed didn't matter to us. YMMV. This does give flexibility in size and brand you can use since, as has already been pointed out here, micros fail alarmingly. Still, if you have space, or if your kids will be using the micro, go for the drawer, or are least something lower. Fridge? Good luck. I hate mine. Electrolux. Everyone seems to hate their fridge. We went with a basic because all my friends with SZ spend their days waiting on the repairman. Seriously. My appliance guy, trustworthy, says get Liebherr. I don't know. Trust the folks here to guide you -- and study AJMadison. Good luck!

36" Gas Range Top Open Burner: Capital Culinarian Series CGRT366 $3424 BlueStar RGTNB RGTNB366BV1 ~$3200 Sealed Burners:Wolf Srt366 6 Burners MRSP $3825* Thermador Professional Series PCG366G $3099 Average: $3387 30" Electric Double Wall Ovens: Electrolux Wave-Touch EW30EW65GS $3009 Thermador Masterpiece Series ME302JS $3999 Bosch 300 HBL350UC $2154 Average: $3084 30" Electric Single Wall Oven: Electrolux ICON Professional E30SO75FPS $1999 Thermador Masterpiece ME301J $2699 Miele Classic Design H4884BPSS $4299 Bosch 800 HBL8750UC $3055 Average: $3013 30" Electric Single Wall Oven with Microwave: Bosch 800 HBL8750UC $3055 Electrolux ICON Designer E30MC75JSS $3599 Thermador Masterpiece MEDMC301J $4299 Average: $3651 24" Drawer Microwave: Sharp Insight Pro KB6524P $777 Wolf MWD242US MRSP $1690* Thermador MD24JS $1499 Average: $1322 36" Counter Depth French Door Refrigerator: Samsung RFG237AA $2899 Samsung RSG257AA $2199 KitchenAid Architect II KBFS20EV $1709 Whirlpool Gold GI0FSAXV $2695 Average: $2376 24" Dishwashers: Bosch 500 SHE55M1 SS $895 http://www.retrevo.com/samples/Bosch-Dishwasher.html Miele Futura Classic G4205SC $999 Miele Futura Crystal G5105SCSS $1399 KitchenAid Superba KUDE20IX $854 Average: $1037 24" Under Counter Refrigerator Center: Subzero UC-24BG/O MSRP $2125* Perlick C-Series HC24BB $2049 Electrolux IQ-Touch EI24BC65GS $1524 U Line 1000 1075BEVS00 $1179 Average: $1719 Variable Appliance Arrangements: I. 36" Gas RangeTop Average: $3387 30" Electric Double Wall Ovens Average: $3084 24" Drawer Microwave Average: $1322 36" Counter Depth French Door Refrigerator Average: $2376 24" Dishwasher Average: $1037 24" Under Counter Refrigerator Center Average: $1719 Total $12,925.00 w/o tax, S&H, Install II. 36" Gas RangeTop Average: $3387 30" Electric Single Wall Oven with Microwave $3651 36" Counter Depth French Door Refrigerator Average: $2376 24" Dishwasher Average: $1037 24" Under Counter Refrigerator Center Average: $1719 Total: $12,170.00 w/o tax, S&H, Install III. 36" Gas RangeTop Average: $3387 30" Electric Single Wall Oven Average $3013 24" Drawer Microwave Average: $1322 36" Counter Depth French Door Refrigerator Average: $2376 24" Dishwasher Average: $1037 24" Under Counter Refrigerator Center Average: $1719 Total Average: $12,854.00 w/o tax, S&H, Install References: - The Least Serviced/Most Reliable Appliance Brands (Reviews/Ratings) Posted by Steve Sheinkopf on Thu, Aug 23, 2012 http://blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/52334/KitchenAid-vs-Bosch-Dishwashers- -The 5 Most Serviced/Least Reliable Appliance Brands Posted by Steve Sheinkopf on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 http://blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/86397/The-5-Most-Serviced-Least-Reliable- -The 4 Most Reliable Appliance Manufacturers Posted by Steve Sheinkopf on Wed, May 25, 2011 http://blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/55677/The-4-Most-Reliable-Appliance-\ Prices as listed on AJMadison.com 10/16/12 except as marked * -SW

I decided I couldn't wait any longer, so I just ordered the 18 qt Nesco with the 2 day prime shipping. My son will cook the turkey Wed. using the make ahead directions previously suggested. Then on Thursday we will bring the cooked (and at least partially sliced) turkey to my sister's house with the Nesco so it can be plugged in/warmed up there. Hopefully I get lots of other uses out of it - have no idea where I will store it - will have to be the attic or garage!

Happyday, I agree that you are overproofing your bread, probably. If you let it rise too high it will collapse on itself and you'll get that sunken lump. Ask me how I know. (grin) Ann T, I do bread dough overnight and it's good, I've done it up to two days in the fridge and it's good, but I keep it more than that I it seems to develop a flavor that I find similar to mild sourdough. Elery loves it, so he's always hoping that I don't have time to bake that dough, LOL. jasdip, you won't find a consistent yeast amount in bread recipes. Some have more and some have less, depending on the flavor the originator of the recipe was shooting for and liked. As has been mentioned, bread is simple and forgiving, you can use more yeast or less, you can use whole wheat or white or off brand flour, oil or butter or none, milk, water, coffee, whatever and it will usually come out just fine. I just made a loaf for Elery that took a cup of liquid, I used 3/4 cup of water and 1/4 cup of Sriracha sauce, along with a bit of dry mustard and some black pepper. White whole wheat in place of all purpose. He loved it, I'm not even tempted to try it! I had seen a similar recipe on the internet, but I didn't feel like looking it up, so I made it from what passes for my memory and it was still just fine and an absolutely beautiful color. Annie