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Comments (19)OK, I have to ask this: If your home is on the NORTH SHORE of Massachusetts why are you trying to imitate Nantucket?! I am not trying to be insulting (though the direct question sure is!), but it's a question that really BEGS an answer. The reality is, you don't have the climate or the mitigating ocean effect to pull off an imitation. Not unless you're willing to hire a landscape company to come in and molly-coddle dicey plants. If you are, that's fine. But if you aren't... You need to trust me on this... zone 6 has many faces in New England. Just because the temperature rarely falls below zero doesn't mean you will be successful with zone 6 plants. I live on a cape. I have seen the mercury go below zero about 4 times in nearly 16 years. But the late winter/early spring winds out of the west can decimate plantings when there is minimal snow cover or marginal hardiness. Cape Cod is a "whole other animal"... don't fool yourself; it's a helluva lot harsher where you and I live. Spring comes LATE to you and me; and plants that respond to spring warmth by opening buds set last season are frequently zapped by fully predictable late season blasts. You have to protect zone 6 Hydrangeas and leave them covered until nearly Memorial Day. I don't have leaves on maple trees until late May. I bid the last of the Lilacs goodbye about 2 wks. ago. My peonies are at full bloom, as is the Climbing Hydrangea. German Iris are just past peak and the Sibirian are now on the wane, too. Be careful and selective in your plantings. Laag knows his onions, but his practical experience doesn't "jive" with my own. Spring comes LATE for you and me, but fall will linger long.. not as long as it will for Cape Cod or the Islands, though....See Morenautical (but not waterfront) home inspiration?
Comments (9)mcfromct, Hi, I live in Mystic. I love both of the houses in your original post but neither of them are anything like what's around here on the CT coast. In fact, it would be hard to actually define a single style house since the New England coastline's development spans 400 years of building. I 'think' though what you're thinking about is sorta what's known locally as the Nantucket Style which dates to the first quarter of the 20th century...think Newport. It can be spotted by the shingle siding & front porches; but is also known for its distinctive landscaping without which it just wouldn't be a Nantucket. Anyway, searching plans under 'Nantucket' may be worth a try. Features you will see here along the CT coast are windows that have been replaced with salvaged ports. There's a marine salvage yard here in Mystic but they are all along the shore area. Garage & doors lights again from marine salvage. Instead of a wreath, we hang PDF Type IV life rings either on the siding or front door. We use a lot of teak...for instance, we have an all wet-room bath & the cabinetry is teak. You'll also see small floor areas done in teak...as example, a small galley kitchen. MUST HAVEs for an authentic New England coastal look in the landscaping include: Hydrangeas (and more hydrangeas!), lilacs, Black-eyed Susans, Shasta daisies, lots of ornamental grasses, lavender-lined walkways, rosa rugosa (beach roses) & clemetis vines. If you have enough of these plants you can create a coastal look with the addition of just 3-5 trees typical of New England (maple, white pine, etc.). We live on a small peninsula jutting into Mystic Harbor about 75-100' from the shore on 3 sides. The architecture is typical varied New England...everything from cottage to Victorian to Nantucket to Italianate to New Englander to Cape to Saltbox...to Colonial...well, you get the picture. No one style defines the shoreline. Might be a fun afternoon to drive our coastline & snap pictures of your favorite houses along the way to use as inspiration. Heck, if you're near the Connecticut River...just drive down to Old Saybrook & Niantic. Lots of inspiration! Good luck...sounds like it's going to be a wonderful house! /tricia...See MoreWaterfront Property Questions
Comments (23)Hi HelenBack, With my screen name, you can rightly guess that I am not from the NE. I am not a lake person, either, and that is where I may be of help. We have started to enjoy vacationing on the water. We like to look at the movement of waterfowl, but boats and skiers and jet-skis can be interesting at times, too. I have some observations that someone accustomed to water living may not think to point out. Here, at least, there are little to no emission controls on boat motors. They stink. They are loud. Some "party" type boating people do litter (as mentioned above), and drink a lot. A vacation destination can become very different on summer weekends, especially - as compared to cooler spring and fall days. Private lakes can control who is on their water to a certain degree. Lakes with a public access site cannot. "All Sports Lake" means that water skiing (noisy and makes a big wake, disrupting everything), as well as fishing, sailing, and canoeing can be done. Electric motors, as far as I am aware, are small "put-put" motors a fisherman may use to move to a new fishing spot, or a sailor to get to shore in a still breezeless time. They are not going to bother you to any great degree. You will still hear the loons and the frogs! Here in the Great Lakes area, we have had falling lake levels for a long time. That means that your boat dock may go over a marshy area (mosquitoes and West Nile Virus) before getting to real water and may end before the water is deep enough to float a boat. Are you allowed to groom this new shoreline, or is it to be left strictly natural? Is the water level in the lakes you are looking at stable, falling, or rising? How does that affect your property upkeep and values? Neighbors can be really close by on a lakefront property. Are open fires permitted? For some reason, bonfires are all the rage now. That means that when I am looking to rent a cottage for a week, an ad that brags about the fire pit for every cottage will steer me away. Woodsmoke is a big asthma trigger for me. How do you and your DH feel about smoke coming in the house anytime day or night? Your neighbor's fireplace can be a smokey hazard, too. If either of you have asthma or COPD, think twice about lakefront living. I don't know why, but you get people out in nature, and they want to light something on fire! Watch for woodpiles, firepits, and chiminea at neighboring houses. With neighbors close, you will also want to figure out if they are people you want to live next to. Any nice feature like a lake will have you all wanting to entertain or hang out on the same side of your homes, so you will be seeing more of each other than on a suburban lot that is situated to maximize privacy. Can you add a fence between your yard and theirs? How far down toward the water may it go? That is all I can think of tonight. I would love to retire on a lake, but it would have to be private, no gas motors, and with houses spaced far apart so I could at least sometimes get to enjoy an evening outside or having the windows open without smoke! HTH!...See MoreMaking an Offer on an Unimproved Lot--that is overpriced plse hel
Comments (37)Well...all in all the best piece of advice I got on this forum was about re-perking. So when I make my offer which will be conditional on certifying and pumping out the septic, there is the chance it won't be certifiable so I would have to reperk and either remove and/or install a new one, which should lower the price accordingly. I am perplexed by many of the other answers. I feel I got great advice from professionals and on an appraisers site, and have a game plan that makes sense to me. I am a little perplexed why some answers seem hostile and wonder if they are from folks who were or are selling houses and lost money in recent years, who knows. Clearly he overpriced his lot, per the comp I found and per the buyers agent. But if I think about how to maximize my chances of conveying this, it will be after he sells his lake lot (which is fairly priced unlike this inside lot or moms house), and may be more receptive. All his stuff has been sitting for two years. For all I know the listing agent, who lives near the city and only knows this particular neighborhood because her boyfriend has some property here...for all I know she likes having her sign posted on his overpriced lot as free advertising and doesn't encourage him to lower the price. Neither agent has spent more than a few minutes with me on the phone so nobody has to feel sorry for the agents involved. I will be back in a few months to let you know how it turned out meanwhile we are also looking this month at the other area we like a few hours away. Thanks again....See MoreToronto Veterinarian
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