Three Large Pella Archtops Leaking
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Comments (15)I strongly recommend extruded aluminum cladding instead of roll-form aluminum. Marvin stopped using roll-form aluminum long ago because of the problems with wood rotting when water inevitably ges behind a thin aluminum covering. Most high level window manufacturers did the same. An extruded aluminum cladding is essentially an exterior aluminum window grafted to an interior wood window. In some designs the interior wood is more of a cladding. Obviously, this costs more to fabricate. As far as I can tell, Pella still uses roll-form aluminum (with bad joints IMHO) for all of their residential windows and calls it "EnduraClad". This puts Pella a whole notch (or two) below Marvin and Eagle in quality. I can't tell you more about Pella because I stopped using them in the 70's. Marvin's extruded aluminum cladding is available in 5 standard colors, 14 select colors, and unlimited custom colors. One of the select colors is Hampton Sage. Many other manufacturers offer surprisingly similar colors. I like Eagle but haven't used them since Andersen bought them. I did have some leaks at the perimeter of the sash and at the glass on two jobs but Eagle was good about replacing the sash. I've never had any trouble with Marvin. 400 The Andersen 400 Series Woodwright Double-Hung is a good window but is in a category of it's own because it is the only plastic clad wood window (that I know of). It doesn't always save much but it is preferable to many cheaper windows. The other 400 Series DH window (the TiltWash) uses the same plastic wrapped frame but the sash is of such poor quality (painted instead of clad and thin muntins) that I will not use it. Prices for windows vary greatly from town to town and between different kinds of distributors/suppliers so it pays to bid with several big outlets. I would avoid Home Depot and Lowes because of their inflated prices, poor knowledge, sloppy ordering, poor service, and intentional lying about delivery dates. Find the three biggest independent suppliers and give them one chance to price the job (with a minimum of discussion, indecision and revisions; these guys are used to dealing with pros). A contractor will get a better price because the suppliers want repeat business and are more likely to trust them not to "shop" the job by taking their price to other suppliers to see if they can beat it (like Home Depot). Buying windows isn't like buying a used car; the good suppliers make a small percent profit and need to move a lot of windows fast. Here is what a Pella roll-form clad sash joint looks like:...See MorePella windows, is this normal??
Comments (22)Guy, Thanks for the info you posted on Garden Web. It addresses a concern that I have and perhaps you can give me a direction or recommendation. I am in the NW Chgo metro area, and have a quote from Pella in Barrington for 5 Designer Series casements (total 12 sashes) that includes their installation services. The quote does not detail product from labor charges. I asked if the store was independently owned, and was told that they were owned by Pella. That made me question why their installation is only warranted for 2 years, as the products' 20 year warranty is void for improper installation. Over the last 25 years, I've had 3 Designer Pella patio doors and 4 windows installed by a very qualified independent contractor (who is no longer available). He was very experienced carpenter, I know he installed the products without Pella's clips - I believe attaching directly to the frame. In addition to a quality installation, I also had a significant cost savings as I was able to purchase the windows using the contractor's discount. I have no way of knowing what is the experience and quality of work of the Pella contractors who would do the work - I only know that the warranty will be void if Pella can blame any warranty issue on poor installation. The Pella in Barrington has not been willing to price the product without cost of their installation. I checked with Lowe's, now selling the Designer, and found they have no knowledge of the product, and not enough experience to know that they have no knowledge, and only gave me much frustration. I also contacted an exterior remodeler who markets Pella, and was told that all my new Pella's will be stocked sized; on reviewing product features with this business, I could tell that they were not knowledgeable on the product. Pella in Barrington stated their windows are customed sized as needed so that I will not be reducing window size, important to me. All sashes are approx 65" long, 3 will be 24" wide and the remaining 9 are 28" wide. Due to service/labor warranty discrepency, stock vs. custom size determination, and an inability to get product only pricing, I am unable to make an informed decision. I thank you for your time reading my concern, and hope you can give suggestion....See MorePella Proline vs. Jeld Wen Siteline EX
Comments (37)I'd be interested if the quotes for the windows are from window dealers that are installing them. Those companies charge crazy prices for installation, and the homeowner has no clue as to the competency of the installation crew. IMO, the only way to go is to have a trusted finish carpenter measure and install windows and the contractor will be buying the windows from a builders supply company at a significant discount to what an average homeowner will pay for the same window. The most important aspect of the whole process is the quality of the installation. Lousy windows installed by a conscientious pro will last longer than top dollar windows installed by a schmuck. Any work done on a house that will come in contact with water had better done by the book or you'll be in a world of misery....See MoreWe're very happy with our new Eagle windows
Comments (2)Having the dividers from your four living room windows either standing on the floor leaning against the windows or just lying on the floor gets to be a pretty major problem! It's embarassing to have one go "plunk" while you're entertaining guests. And it started happening pretty soon after we had them installed. We never open those windows so I can't say how they would work if we did. Judging from the salesman's response when I asked about correcting the problem we're not the only ones it's happened to and it does seem that Pella could have taken some interest in following up on it. Check back in 13 years and I'll let you know how the Eagles are doing. ;-)...See Morechisue
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