I just got a new Intelliflow VF for our 23,000g pool and have a couple questions. Right now I have it set up to run from 5am-11am and 6pm-12am. The pump determined my flow rate to be 32gal/min and that sounds about right to me for 1x turnover. My question is that we have a Polaris 380 pool cleaner with booster pump. I am curious how much much flow do I need to have for when the booster pump kicks on? Is 60gpm enough, too much? Another question is will the Intelliflow take this into account for the total water turnover rate and reduce the speed for the rest of the filtering cycle? Here is what I am thinking at the moment: 5am intelliflow on 9am intelleflow increase to 60gpm 9:15am booster pump/pool cleaner on 10:30am booster pump/pool cleaner off 11:00am intelliflow off 6pm intelliflo on 12am intelliflow off If the intelliflow runs @ the 32gpm as it is right now that would make for 26,400 gal circulated. Is it smart enough to slow down the 32g/min to compensate for the time I need to to do 60 for the pool cleaner to run? I think I just answered my own question because in the manual under time optimized filter cycle it says it will cut off earlier. So I guess the real question is how much flow do I need when the booster pump is on?

In fact, I just finished talking to him. I mainly just asked him about the Hybrid pump with just a couple of questions about the VF versus X2. John stated that there is no pump on the market that can move close to the same amount of water for the same energy consumed. For 2 inch pipe with a Sta-rite system3 DE filter, he estimates that at their default 1500 rpm filtering speed, the Hybrid pump would move 60 to 80 GPM using 1.8 amps. This equates to 230V X 1.8 amps = 414 watts. I searched TFP and found chemgeek listed a slew of speeds and wattage readings from his VF (60 GPM, 2710 rpm = 1305 watts). That's a little below what John estimated the VF would consume with my setup. If I drop the rpm to 1000 on the Hybrid, the amps would drop to 0.5 = 115 watts. Unfortunately, I forgot to ask him the GPM estimate. But it's obvious that he believes the hybrid to be the most efficient variable on the market. Using the 1.8 amps for 1500 rpm moving 60 GPM (low end of his estimate for GPM), to turnover 32K gallons 1 time would consume 3.68kwh in 8.9 hours. According to your spreadsheet using Curve A, the VF at 1000 rpm would take 3.15 kwh running for 24.24 hours. Getting the VF to turnover in 8.98 hours requires 10.4kwh (using chem geek's numbers, it would be 11.6 kwh). Unfortunately, no CEC data to perform apples to apples comparison via the spreadsheet. But given that another X2 user on the forum reports using 2.2 amps using solar and running his waterfall, the efficiency could be close to what John states. Replacement cost is another consideration I asked John about. Since the drive is the most expensive aspect of the VF with its custom application, the availability of an off the shelf driver for the Hybrid that they customize the programming on makes the cost much more reasonable - in the $300 range. The pump motor is custom made to their specs and they have not had a single failure in 3 years. John stated that the drive's job is to keep the motor safe so it won't allow it to run outside of pre-set parameters or it will shut it down. I also found out that I won't need an automation system to run the X2. The drive has an internal timer which will allow me to run X time at vacuum speed and the rest at filter speed. My intermatic clock would control on/off like it currently does for the single speed. Hybrid also has a 2 year warranty on everything. The only question left is longevity of the company itself. Can they sell enough and get PBs to start using their product to stay in business? I'm really impressed after running the numbers.

Hi All, I would appreciate if some one help explain whats going on with my Intelliflo VF pump. I have a VF that was running for about 22 Hrs turning a 20K pool once a day. It was running at around 16 GPM and it ran fine for over a month. 16GPM x 22hrs ~ 20K gallons.. Perfect. Then I introduced solar heating and programmed feature 3 on the pump to 30 GPM for 5 Hrs a day. The rest of the time the pump is scheduled to run at 16 GPM. It starts at 6.00 AM and runs at 16 GPM till feature 3 kicks on at 11.00 AM. So thats 5 Hrs which equals 16x60x5 = 4800 gallons From 11.00 am to 4.00 pm feature 3 runs at 30 GPM. So thats 30x60x5 = 9000 gallons. At the end of feature 3 total gallons filtered = 4800 + 9000 = 13800 The pump then goes into power save/sleep mode which it is supposed to do when it thinks its finished the cycle sooner than necessary. But there is still about 6200 gallons to filter which means the pump should have ramped down to 16 GPM and run for at least 6 hrs. Am I calculating something wrong ? Can some one explain to me whats going on ? Pentair's "So called" Technical support had no clue and they rudely hung up the phone saying that no one can say what the computer calculates. This is exactly what they said. Pentair has the worst technical support team ever. Please help..

The max the whole system can put out is a total of 90 amps at 220VAC, but this is a small club house for a retreat center/hotel, so there will be other draws - kitchen appliances, office equipment, lighting, TVs, stereos, etc. I would estimate probably 50 amps could be continuously available after allowing for those other loads. My plan for sanitation was to use the IntelliChlor along with the EasyTouch in the pool. I had been advised that the chlorine generators aren't as effective in the spa system due to water temps (though I've also heard differing opinions on this). I was guessing that I'd just have to add chlorine directly for the spa system. The plumbing size is all 2". After finding this forum (after the pour), it seems like we should have gone 2.5", but that is already set in concrete. I don't have any pool equipment in place yet. I'm hoping to purchase everything simultaneously. This includes the automation system(s). It sounds like you're advising against the automation systems - or perhaps you just mean the old style, mechanical ones. When you say that the VS and VF should be attached directly to the 220 source, do you mean without an additional automatic control mechanism like the EasyTouch? Or do you mean just to skip the older-style mechanical timers? Can I control things like solar heating diversion, chlorine generation, spa jets, etc. directly through the pumps? It seems like the VF has some onboard controls, if a bit complicated. My sense was that I was going to need two EasyTouch systems - one for the pool and one for the spa. Many thanks for your advice and insight. I truly appreciate the guidance of those with expertise in the area.