The Mystery Roses of the Australian Tea-Noisette Collection
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Need to narrow this list of Chinas, Noisettes, and Teas down to 8
Comments (30)The blooms of Perle d'Or have proved to be a lot more durable in hot weather than those of my Arethusia, which were thoroughly cooked by noon before the plant was moved to Louis XIV's sun-protected neighborhood. Good thing the two roses look good together. Both apricots are healthy and floriferous, with pleasing growth habits. I'd probably have a hard time choosing between them in a milder summer climate. I like Gruss an Aachen, but if space limitations forced me to make a choice, I'd hold out for Pink GaA (AKA Irene Watts). The color is better, IMHO. Marie d'Orleans is a good, generous rose, and quite the little attention grabber. It's the only rose in my collection that my non-gardening dh can identify by name. After 3 years of hearing him laughingly refer to it "that sea urchin rose" or "the bed head rose," it was vaguely unsettling to hear him call it "Marie d'Orleans" last year....See MoreBest Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
Comments (13)The site looks pretty plain right now....my miniature horses have had access to the island and keep it picked clean even though they have a huge pasture to go into. I have had visions of doing this for the 19 years I have lived here, so this is really going to be fun! Not to mention having room for more roses!! I am going Sunday to a really great antique place that has old ironwork and am hoping to find a rusted looking lovely gate to put at the entrance. Crepuscule is probably my very favorite rose......so I plan to have that one for sure. The noisettes I have other than Crepuscule are Blush and Natchitoches Noisette. A friend has a gorgeous Blush Noisette that is in a bush form and is arching and graceful - other than climbers, that is a look I want. I have Pleasant Hill Cemetery on order and now plan to get Manchester Guardian Angel. I want a soft pastel look [lighter colors show up better at night], no reds. Mme. Berkeley is one I really love for its continual soft blooms. But the noisettes seem like they would be graceful and sway in the breeze and bloom alot so plan to concentrate on them at first. I plan to make a trip to Chamblees, which is 2 hours from me, and they have Allister Stella Gray. I have a Champneys Pink Cluster - also thought about that one. I want to get the Swamp Rose when I got to the Antique Rose Emporium in April and have Raubritter on order, which I understand would be good near the water. There is plenty of room and I want to do a variety of noisettes, so welcome the suggestions! When I get some things planted, I will post other photos. Thanks! Judith...See MorePhil Edinger's Tea Noisette foundling
Comments (8)The only other rose I've had here that grew as much in the first year was Crepuscule, and this one had several flushes to boot. I grow bands for a season in the vegetable garden and transplant in the following spring, and this one had five feet of growth on multiple canes when I moved it. No disease yet this year, it had the barest touch of mildew last year, cleaner than Crepuscule. Luxrosa, do you know how big this gets? Will it go into trees do you think? I really, really, like this rose....See MoreI’m swearing off teas, chinas and noisettes. Now what?
Comments (14)Thanks all! eramus from your list I have killed Mme Antoine Mari (2), Mrs B R Cant, Mme Lombard, Mme Berkeley, Comtesse du Cayla, Le Vesuve and Lady Hillingdon (2). Plus at least a dozen more. My house is in the middle of a field with long sweeps of clear land for cold wind to cross--I have to find things for areas other than the very limited warm spots I have. I know there are other OGR that will work here, but I was hoping to narrow down a class or two that might be know for blackspot resistance (as teas and chinas are) instead of randomly trying to pick roses from the fifty billion available. Or at least get some guidance as to what class is most likely to be a blackspot disaster so to avoid. I'm just looking to narrow down the options! My Madame Hardy sported the best example of Damasks crud I have ever seen--and HMF lists it as "very disease resistant." The two Hybrid Perpetuals Baronne Prevost and Jacques Cartier (HMF "very disease resistant") so totally defoliated that they were unable to build any size and languished. After 3 years I shovel pruned them--its one thing to languish WITH leaves but most of the late spring and summer they were literally sticks and any new growth was totally infected in a couple weeks. Are those examples consistent with what other people see of Damask and HP classes in high blackspot pressure areas? I have Darlow's Egnima on the way to try a Hybrid Musk. Any others I should try? I have Paul Barden's modern Gallica (hybrid) Marianne so that might be an area to try. I will order Chas. de Mille! Barden's website mentioned that Bourbons are not very BS resistant--is this what people typically see of Bourbons in the southeast? Ann, I'm curious as to what "real Noisettes" are working for you. I have one, Pleasant Hill Cemetery, that gets cold damage--sudden cane death--on several of it's canes each spring, but still throws out a bunch of basals to replace them although it does not climb and has stayed a scraggly 4x4 shrub. (I'll give it away if anyone local wants it who might be a tad warmer.) All the Tea Noisettes that I've tried, except Reve D'or have failed. (And she got a bit wacked in our late freeze, so the verdict is still out.)...See Moreroseseek
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