similar to Florentina, QS in my garden nEEDS full sun to bloom and stay healthy. Here QS climbs. She may be pruned to keep her bushy but others will have to comment on success with that. I wanted her to climb and thus far shes well over 8-10ft.

Thank you very much Vapor. I am finding out that ALL Kordes here need almost all day sun to really perform well. Some of my quicksilver definitely get 6 hours of sun and still don’t look like anything to be proud off. The blooms I have gotten have been beautiful but not numerous. I will give them a better spot and see what happens.

Oursteelers you plant looks very nice with lots of blooms for such a young looking plant. I really love your clematis combination also. I think you I’ve a very beautiful combo going there. Thank you for showing me your plant.

I said I don’t have a place for a climber, but I wonder if I could add a structure to my area and let them climb. ( the area is very slopped so that gives me pause)

Dianela, have you tried Love Song, which I think is one of my best roses? I grow two and they're huge, and I'll bet your Love Song would be big, too. I consider Love Song to be the best colored lavender out there.

Oursteelers, I love your arbor and the rose clematis combo. It fits so well with all the surrounding greenery which you are so lucky to have. Diane

Oh no, none of my Kordes are in all day sun 🤦🏽‍♀️ I guess if they don't perform well I'll know what the issue probably is.

Magpie don’t despair yet. My shady QS was in four hours of sun and my sunny area is only between 6-7.

The only part of my property that gets full sun is on the other side of the fence. I try anything in less than ideal situations. I don’t want my plants to die (gardening is too expensive for that) but I have lower

expectations than a lot of

people

Diane. I love your Love song. I have always wanted to try Love song or Poseidon but have never done it. Seil mentioned on an older post that it was prone to BS and that put her lower in my list. I have to ask JC in TN how it is behaving over-there with regards to blackspot.

I wonder if Quicksilver is just to new on the market. I just feel like even after hearing a lot of good things about it I have never seen very large plants of it here.

It is really coming into its own now and gives beautiful flushes remaining healthy. It was one of the last bloominer into the frost.y. DO consider Posieidon While the colour is more gray toned its extremely robust and healthy here under heaby BS pressure. I think many of these Kordes need time to bloom well even as they grow large. Ive seen it here with Florentina, as m e even after transplanting to full sun, but especially with First Crush which knocked it out of the park FINALLY this Summer. A feww dont have this problem, such as Bordeaux and Fire Opal, but theyre much smallyer plants to begin with. Please excuse this typeing. I think it a Houzz problem. :<<

This is the best my 3-year-old own-root Quicksilver looked this year in a spot that gets 6-7 hours of sun. I was actually wondering if I needed to move her into more shade!

This photo was taken in June. The nice thing about this flush was that it lasted at least a month, because the flowers lasted about two weeks each, and they didn’t all bloom at the same time. After this, QS bloomed sporadically, shut down in the hottest part of summer, and then got chili thrips—gah! This was the first year that I’ve had chili thrips, and I didn’t figure out what they were or that I needed to spray with spinosad until mid-October. When I finally got the chili thrip memo, I trimmed off any questionable leaves and, painfully, removed all of the buds that were setting up for QS’s fall flush. The new foliage is beautiful and purplish—but there js nary a bud to be seen! Julia Child and Sexy Rexy also got cut back by 50 percent at the same time as QS due to the thrips. Now 6 weeks later, Sexy Rexy has buds about to open; Julia Child is already in bloom again. Of course, it’s unfair to expect any rose to bloom as much as the great Julia Child!

Overall, I’ve found Quicksilver to be more of a Slow-silver, and I continue to hope for improvement with time. Also, the blooms are big, beautiful, and quartered, and they last on the bush like silk flowers even in hot sun—but they usually have close to zero fragrance, and have a certain muddiness to the color. I agree with Diane about the clear lavender tones of Love Song—which really does seem to be the best lavender floribunda in a hot and dry climate by a wide margin.

Actually, looking back at my photos, Quicksilver was also blooming nicely in April, and it looks like the flushes actually lasted 3 weeks each.

Third year

Really healthy

Kristine, that is a fabulous picture. Yours as well, oursteelers. I've seen many pictures of this rose on HMF and it just has never appealed to me, but the photos on this thread are making me rethink that!

Magpie I don’t know if it matters to you or not but Quicksilver has a very light fragrance

What a shame, but I'll be content to just admire photos then :) Not that I was looking to buy another rose anyway. At least not right now. If Therese Bugnet doesn't get better in the next season or two though, she's getting the shovel and then I can have some fun shopping for a replacement. She smells so good but I've never gotten even 10 blooms arlt at once, and no repeat, no hips. So annoying when roses in great spots don't do well.

I feel bad because I talked my nail Lady into getting Therese Bugnet and it has been a big disappointment for her

But she wanted low thorn so that is what I suggested.

@Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b), its hard to believe H@Helen@Hele Helesns pics didnt appeal to you on HMF! Her posts on QS were an inspiration!

Vapor, I honestly couldn't even tell you what I don't love about this rose. Helen has loads of gorgeous photographs, and grows every rose to perfectperfection, and still I would probably never buy this rose 😬 what can I say, just like some roses have "the thing" that makes them seem irresistible to some, this one has a "thing" that turns me off enough to not want it, even though I can admit that I understand why other people find it beautiful. I don't know what the thing is that I don't like, it's just something. Part (a big part tbhtbh) of what I find appealing in the above photos is the staging. The plants around QS make it look nice, I like the arbors and the sky and trees in the background.

Thank you desert rose for your beautiful pictures. Your QS looks spectacular and it seems to love your garden. I guess mine can’t grow or bloom of it doesn’t have any leaves. I’ll move it to more sun and see. I am sorry to hear your have chili thrips, those things are horrendous.

Kristine thank you for your pictures. Your QS also look gorgeous. I would be so happy if mine looked like that. I am going to give it another chance and hope it does better.

Vapor is good to her Poseidon can do well regarding blackspot. I do like the cool lavender color on Poseidon and would love to give it a try here.

Magpie, I totally understand the thing with not being able to describe why you don't like or want a rose. Orange roses are one of my very favorites, yet I have a general dislike of many orange blends. Friends will recommend one, and it just leaves me cold. OTOH, there are some I love. It's on a case by case basis, with no real explanation other than my gut reaction :-D

Thank you @susan9santabarbara, I was just thinking "maybe I shouldn't have said anything, I don't want anyone to feel like I'm insulting them!" A lot of people on this forum who grows QS grow it so well, I really don't mean anything personal towards any of the members of the forum who have it. They're all WonderWonderful gardeners with great specimens of QS. I just don't love the rose itself for whatever reason, but you all still grow it beautifully. So sorry if I put my foot in my mouth.

I dont think anyone was insulted. Here with HIGH BS pressure, Im just glad to find anything that will continue blooming, keep its leaves and have some scent. Most are duds, so that colours my views to a large degree. Have you seen QS in person? Often, I find thats the clincher for me!

Vapor, I agree 100% that seeing a plant in person is the most important factor but I have never seen it here. I hardly see any roses locally in people's yards that aren't knockouts or Dr. Huey, and I've not seen it at any rose parks or the botanical gardens. For whatever reason, only landscape roses are popular where I live :/ I would be happy to see it in person if I could, though it is disappointing to hear that it has very light fragrance.

MM, I know what you mean; here in Italy people just aren't much into flower gardening. In order to see roses I'd have to make deliberate trips to visit rose gardens, etc. (for shame! I've never yet seen the famous Fineschi rose garden!)

There is nothing insulting about people having different opinions, different likes and dislikes. Actually, to be honest I think some people are far too easily insulted,taking offence at totally innocuous remarks when none was intended. As seriously as one may take their roses, they just are NOT the same thing as , for example, one's religion, lol!

Magpie I am glad you said it, that’s the beauty of any hobby. You grow what makes your heart sign. I for example just do not love the traditional pointed bloom of hybrid teas. I have grown some but they are just not what I love about rose gardening no matter how gorgeous. I love seeing them in others peoples gardens and even on a vase in my house (will grow a cutting garden one day), but they just mehh don’t do it for me in the garden. Everyone here is very kind and this is the place to be honest about roses, if we dont do it who will =).

My nearest botanical garden is an hour away and when I last visited, I had houndreds of Roses more than they did (they had some drifts and a few random scraggly hybrid teas). The Birmingham botanical garden has a small but nice exhibition of roses including Austin’s and many newer Kordes, but those are all very young plants. So for me to see roses in person I would have to travel a few hours at least (the Biltmore gardens are gorgeous) but thats like a 7 hour drive.

Dianela, are you saying you don't like high centered buds? I also don't like that at all 🙈 haha. That's a shame there aren't any rose gardens near you . I've definitely complained about this before, but our closest rose garden (30 minutes away) has no labels! Most of the roses are HT's so not my thing, but there are a few really nice roses and no information anywhere, on site or online, as to what they are. Why would they do that?? Anyway, hopefully when the roses atel at* the Birmingham botanical gardens are mature they'll be a lovely aightsight to visit. Maybe one day you could occasionally open up your garden for yours, sounds like you have a rare gem :)

Tours* ugh, can't fix typos anymore.

It is a good thing that there so many roses to choose from. I love the traditional hybrid tea but I am also crazy about big blousy blooms . The only form that I dont care for is the globe but can enjoy the beauty of yours.

In the end I am. more about color than anything else and boy are colors subjective

Hahah Kristine so interesting you said that. My absolute favorite shape has been the “balls” , I have bought any globe shaped rose I could find. I am starting to love the button-eye ones now. It shows how everyone is so different, I love it.

That's funny! It's what makes life so much fun

We're all lucky to be in a love affair with a plant that can have so many different qualities :)