wow david wish you would have send me some of those.. i just purchased a new brom. ill send ya a pic, it doesnt have pups but when it does we are going to have to do some more tradin..it has red spots got it at the grocery store. also a striped one..later morma

Nancy, I once had mine do the same thing for me a couple years ago and nothing since!!! That's crazy. They smell so good too. I think I had mine in the little greenhouse all winter the year mines did and fertilized all winter. I am trying the same thing again this year. I will take a photo for you on the one I started from that very plant , the momma you have there)) There si something about yours that just makes me smile so much. Thank you for sharing. The temps not so bad yesterday 70 here. Crazy. Still I have many annuals just pushing growth in pots but after this weekend it will be the end.((( Mike

For anyone who wishes to order hoyas from Thailand or any other foreign country for that matter,make sure that you can get a phyto certificate to accommodate your shipment before you pay for it. Customs has been getting their panties in a twist lately and destroying any shipments that are not accompanied by proper documentation. I had a rather large order of rare hoyas coming from Thailand that were shipped on 8/11. The box finally showed up at my house on 8/26. EMPTY!!!! All that was in it was a piece of paper from customs stating that the cuttings had in fact been inspected,were found to be insect and disease free but due to no phyto ( my fault) with the shipment ,my hoyas were destroyed. Bad part about it was that instead of the idiot inspector destroying the box as well, I mean hey if you trash the plants,trash the box too,they found it amusing to go ahead and send me the empty box. A letter would have been fine, my name and address were right on the box!!! The Thai vendor who is someone that i've dealt with for several years now was gracious enough to replace the shipment for me,with a phyto this time. That box was mailed last Monday 9/14,it arrived in N.Y. Saturday 9/19 and it was at my house yesterday 9/21,sent EMS. It took exactly 1 week from the day of shipment for me to receive the order and everything was in excellent condition. david

I keep my bella, javanica, chinghungensis, lacunosas, engleriana, glabra, finnlaysonii complex types, praetorii, darwinii, davidcummingiana, lobbii, and imperialis on the moist side to varying degrees. I will probably be keeping my polyneura a bit moist too but that is still rooting. For drier ones, that would be my kerriis, carnosas, and treubiana. I have been keeping my villosa a bit dry too, and these are all doing well. I suppose, heushkeliana I keep a bit moist as well. My others are more intermediate sort of water when I remember or they look dry. Those would be DS-70, pubycalyx types, shepherdii, andalensis, UT-002, limoniaca, inconspicua, curtisii, obscura, pottsii, pachyclada, australis species, diptera, UT-168, fungii, obovata, diversifolia and diversifolia aff crassipes. Think thatcabout covers my collection, may be forgetting a few. I live on Eastern washington, tends to be hot in summers and my house is nearly always on the dry side from either external conditions or my heater in the winter.