What fixtures do you want in the new bathroom?

Does the vanity need 2 sinks or would 1 do?

No tub, just a shower?

Do you want one sink or two? 36x36" is the minimum recommended size for a walk-in shower.

I think that plan isn't bad, if the door can't move. That's 28" to the left of the door, right? So not enough space to put the toilet on that wall?

Who uses this bathroom, and how often? We have family with a 30"x30" (interior) shower that we use when we visit--it's small but totally functional, and was their master bath for many years before they added a larger master suite. It looks like you have room to have a true 36x36 interior, too (with curb outside of that area) which will be bigger than a typical 36x36 footprint shower that has the curb included in that measurement.

You could play with options to put the toilet on the lefthand wall, but I don't like any of those better than what you already have, since then you open the door to see the toilet. But if the priority is a bigger shower, you could get that by cutting the vanity in half to be a single sink and then putting the toilet under the window, leaving the entire right side open for the shower.

Thanks. These are basic questions I forgot to answer!

One sink, one shower, one toilet. Some storage. Master bathroom for 2 people so daily use. Technically there is a makeup vanity just outside the bathroom if that makes the wee bathroom more palatable.

Originally it had a shower AND an additional door to the main hall which amazes me. Must have been a tight shower. I think it was set into the 37" notch in the top.

Is a 36 x Something-a-little-longer a comfortable sized shower?

I did some toilet shopping online and it does appear that there are toilets small enough to stick in the lower left corner with the 28". If I put it on the exterior wall facing the door, a stubby toilet won't protrude. (I am not sure if code would allow it facing up. It would have the requisite clearance on each side but a few of those inches would be doorway.) I might be able to do a wall hung toilet.

What about this? I think the shower is a little too wide here. I've given up my dream of a cast iron shower pan so no limits on shower dimensions or shape here (and vanity will be built-to-fit as well), but 6 more inches to the "walkway" and vanity might be good.

Will definitely put a sink in the vanity.

Thanks! it's really helpful to bounce ideas around.

Your plan below is roughly what I was thinking could be an alternative but with toilet and vanity reversed and perhaps vanity on the exterior wall instead. As drawn it would be tricky to get into the shower behind the entry door.

I find our new 36x42 shower perfectly comfortable but our existing bath only has a narrow shower over tub so anything is spacious in comparison. I tried out and measured showers at homes of friends and family before deciding, though.

Kohler does make a 36x48 cast iron pan—I tried hard to fit it in ours but couldn’t. You might be able to!

I currently shower in a cheap tub so I'm sure it's actually plenty roomy! (The 50s pink tub in the other bathroom is a delight to shower in.)

As far as access goes, we do close the door to shower...even if we weren't shy, you have to get in the tub at that end because of the toilet. :)

Checking out where I can fit a 38x48 pan now. TY!

I would turn the toilet in your second idea, so it faces the vanity, and switch the door swing so you don't walk in and practically fall over the toilet. Opening the door to the shower is a much nicer view.

I don’t think she can turn the toilet with only 28” there—but worth checking with the permit counter.

I don't think you have room to have the toilet face the vanity. I think your last idea would work. I would do a bigger shower. Have the shower entrance behind the door. (You always close the door anyway.) . If you want your shower to be 36 X48, you could put storage north of the shower that opens to the hallway on the other side. Or you could do a really long shower 72 inches by 36 wide.

You could do a stand alone vanity with drawers on the left. With a sink to the right side, you would have more space to stand in,

You might fit a toilet as Cpartist suggested if you find a toilet 26 inches deep, a vanity 18 inches deep and your code is 24 inch space minimum in front of toilet. You might be lucky and only require 21 inches.

I think the issue is in the other direction—you need 15 inches from the center to the nearest obstruction, so question is how they count the doorway. We’d have to do a sliding shower door instead of pivot in our city for a similar reason (doors can’t conflict ). But all depends on your city inspectors.

Good stuff! Thanks!

I will have to check code. My city has thrown codes at GCs that really surprised them compared to other cities they work in. The codiest city in the greater SF bay area! I'm a little terrified they will want the door widened. Surely not. (I do have an almost ADA bathroom in an addition for use when needed.)

I don't mind a sliding door. I kind of dislike the hinged doors, although I'm not sure why. I might like a curtain. Or no door! Future details.

I'll have the local cabinet guy do a vanity in whatever space remains suitable. If it ends up shallow, it'll be fine as long as we can get a sink into it.

I will have to see what is required for installing a toilet with tank in the wall. That would save inches.

Geez I must have been sleep posting lol Of course you guys are correct. She cant turn the toilet

We got away with not widening our 30” door because it was existing— but technically it’s supposed to be 32” I think. I am sure your code inspection is more functional than ours though—a lot here just depends on who comes out. Also depends on where your city has added amendments to CA state code—we don’t have many/any (it’s all they can do to get the zoning updated!)

Well, I'm not SURE I can't turn it. What if the door swings out?

Anyway, sleep posting is when we get our most brilliant inspirations. :)

CA Building code 2022:

[Bathroom] Fixtures shall be spaced in accordance with the California Plumbing Code.

CA Plumbing code 2022:

The clear space in front of a water closet, lavatory, or bidet shall be not less than 24 inches.

So....what about a corner toilet? In the lower left of Karen's sketch? I think it would meet clearance requirements and also save us from having to decide which way to point the potty.

The tank-in-wall toilets are just too too modern.