Prague citsuma update - finally got fruit in MD!
Laura LaRosa (7b)
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Laura LaRosa (7b)
2 months agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
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Bagging Fruit
Comments (57)I will post some photos later but this year I tried bagging, apples, grapes and chums with either ziplocks or organza bags to keep the birds/bugs away. Organza bags being the nylon mesh bags used for wedding gifts and the like. I bought mine from: http://www.yourorganzabag.com/organzabag.htm. I used Moss Green as they are not visible in the foliage. I used the 6x9 bags but are they are a bit short for long grapes. Perfect for plums and apples and small bunches of grapes. I trimmed off the top of the ziplock just to the zipper part. Then at each bottom corner I cut off a triangle of plastic to leave about a 3/4 - 1 inch hole for ventilation. After 4 months there is a big difference. The ziplocks act like little greenhouses. There is nearly always significant condensation inside. The bags have a tendency to collapse and even with the drain holes there can be 5-10ml of cumulative water condensation inside. Earwigs like to crawl up via the condensation holes and hang out. The Organza bags have no issues. The are well sealed, no bugs get inside and ventilation is perfect. For apples, there does not seem to be a big issue with the heat/humidity. They seem to be growing and coloring up roughly the same no matter which bag. For the plums and grapes there are a huge difference. Once starting to turn color there is skin breakdown and rot formation in the ziplocked grapes. Coluration of the grapes also seems to be better in with the Organza bags. My Organza bags cost about $0.22 each vs $0.04/ziplock. However after 3 months they still look pretty much like new and as I am harvesting grapes I keep the bags for re-use next year. Another positive is the Organza bags have no perperation time (ziplocks you need to trim 2 corners + the tag) and are super easy to install. The Organza bags have a drawstring, you just open the bag, pull the string then tie a bow over the branch. For me, for the look (my trees don't look like they are covered in plastic), the ease of installation and the ventilation I will be using Organza bags from now on. Not sure for apples if you would see a difference with airborn fungus and scab but they work great for all insect and bird related problems. I think they would work awesome for peaches as they breath very well but keep the bugs/birds out. Just my experience up here in zone 4....See MoreAny pawpaw updates?
Comments (33)I do get the sense that to some degree pawpaws are being exploited for their trendy marketing value without regard to putting out a product that even vaguely introduces the consumer to the flavor of pawpaw. I've tried pawpaw beer at the Ohio Pawpaw festival and then more recently from a local brewer, and while I enjoyed the beer, I and others could detect no hint of pawpaw in either concoction. Now with ice cream, having made a few batches I am gaining an understanding about how easy it is to go from undetectable pawpaw flavor to overpowering pawpaw flavor by adding just a small amount of extra pulp. It reminds me of one of those awful hotel showers where the water goes from scalding hot to freezing cold with a tiny turn of the knob....See MoreIchang Papida. Sudachi Mandarin fruit
Comments (52)" As far as I know, sudachi is a hybrid of yuzu, so how sudachi be as cold hardy as yuzu? " Most likely because its other original parent was also cold-hardy as well. In the case of Sudachi, the other parent had some Tachibana ancestry. (or at least that's what I recall from one genetic study that was done in Japan; Tachibana is the only species of citrus that was originally indigenous to Japan, before humans brought other cultivated varieties there later) https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5564442/origins-of-asian-hardy-citrus-types-diagrams...See MorePrague citsuma in ground update
Comments (22)Hi Steve! I looked through some of the posts and saw that your trees are also well. Alexander is fine - full of flowers. I think he took some time off from holding fruit. Maybe he needed a break and I also think he may need a root trim and some freshening up of the 5-1-1. I feel so much better this year with the tree situation because I can light them better, check for bugs, and it’s much easier to water them. Alexander is in that corner - hard to see but he’s there. :)...See Moreponcirusguy6b452xx
2 months agoLaura LaRosa (7b)
2 months agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
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