Hi! I hadn't check in here for awhile and there are so many new comments and wanted to thank you all! 1. A few of you noted that German persil is not widely available in the US. I live in a very eastern European neighborhood in north Brooklyn and a fair amount of mom and pops carry European imports. Oddly they are all inexplicably cheap and even carry most of my favorite chocolates from the UK for 60% less than other places [Lion Bar FTW]. It's a unique experience and also great for odd jams and biscuits! After a quick look [long, actually, because it's not in english] at the box, and a google, the Henkel Polska seems to be formulated differently than the german, but based on my use so far it is working very well. I will try to get my hands on some of the actual german, do a comparison, and come back here with my findings. 2. I promise to not use blueing again. I think I was only doing it since my grandma said that's how things were done? I now know she was totally wrong on that [and other things, like putting hot dogs and rice in casseroles. Together. ]. 3. Individual replies: @Donna-37:Awesome I will look to find the Target Ever spring, sounds like a good twindos dupe. I'm not near bigbox often, but when I next am I will pick some up. @theclose : You mentioned using tide liquid for when a load would require liquid detergent. When would that be? I read through a lot of the threads in this forum and it seemed like powder was mostly preferable. Is it a certain kind of stain that requires liquid? @livebetter :Do you like the Miele color powder? I have started with the persil, am loving the Miele Ultra white, but hesitant to buy another variety until I use up the persil box I have [which on 1-2 Tbsps per load might be 2030. @rococogurl : All Hail the Queen! Honestly your cheat sheet is amazing! I do have the leblanc on my list-to-buy, however my husband was super wary after we installed the machine and then I bought a vast number of detergents and extra phosphate stuff for our miele dishwasher based on reading old houzz forums, so I refrained for now. I've been very careful about sudsing, when something new [but vintage linen] is purchased I run it with no detergent, prewash with sodium percarbonate, and extra rinse. It's insane when I see how much sud is in the washer when I am washing these items with no detergent. For my first few loads of normal clothing I followed your sheet, but did the measurements by half. I've tweaked with cycles and have come up with what works for our water and only the smallest trail of bubbles ends up on the bottom slope of the door glass. The Polska [not german as I OP'd, but Polish] Persil powder has almost no sud, I have not yet experimented with the Polska persil gels, however the perwoll sport worked well for my workout stuff and didn't rash me [sensitive skin] and didn't sud at all [maybe because sweat?]. I have Bosch compacts at my upstate place and for my rental property. When I wrote my initial ask here I didn't really understand them and was only using cold water and like half a cup of budget liquid detergent [it now sounds insane to me that I was doing that]. I am now using them correctly [using your cheat sheet for them too], getting exceptionally better results, and trying to figure out how to instruct my longterm tenants without sounding insane about fabric softener sheets being outlawed and them using too much soap. I now think the miele and the bosch are equal in result, the miele is just more plug and play and the cost made me actually research how to use it, vs. the bosch I just installed and walked away. Bosch are great machines; It's my own fault for not learning how to use them correctly.

@John The Home Depot Design Center's installers are not certified, though they plan to be soon. The woman I spoke to on the phone told me they were, but, when I went in and spoke to the manager I bought from, he said they weren't and there was confusion about that because they had been certified until certain changes to the corporate structure at HDDC were finished and now they need to reapply, or something like that. So I knew they weren't certified, but thought they were as good as certified. That's why I got the five year extended warranty (because the lack of the Miele-certified installers meant that Miele would not double my warranty through them to 2 years (which they do when Miele-certified installers are used. And, yes, I think what you say about third-party installers might be correct. I know that HDDC has their own installers, which they tout, and I was impressed by that (but not so much now). The second set of installers they sent with the replacement machines were very good.

It’s peroxide burn as said above. The phase 2 bottle is about 10% concentrate. The stuff you get at the drugstore is usually 3%. Check the bottle for damage around the spout where it inserts into the machine. Make a note to self to always wear nitrile gloves when cleaning anything where potential chemical leaks could occur. Wr refill the phase 2 bottle with ecover peroxide bleach which is 6-8%. If any spills on my hands they bubble white Like yours. I only did that once. I always wear gloves now pouring it full strength. I wear glasses, but if you don’t make sure to get some safety glasses as well. you might want to call Miele in Princeton, NJ as well and let them know about the leak.

You can use bleach the problem is that the slot in the pull out drawer where you put the bleach does not get flushed into the washer during the main wash. It is a software bug. the work around is to add the bleach to the main detergent slot after the washer does it’s first flush of that drawer. You only get a couple minutes to do it, but thst is a work around. Most people who switch to oxygen bleach dont go back to chlorine bleach. OB could be Optical Brighteners or Oxygen Bleach. Optical Brighteners are chemicals that reflect only certain colors of visible light. This tricks your eyes to thinking things are white. They do nothing to actually clean clothes. Many people have allergies to optical brightening chemicals and they are usually considered an environmental pollutant.