Yup, two different plants. The flowered one is shorter. The more I look at it the more I'm thinking it's a galium. The taller of the two looks like it's about to bloom which should solve the problem. These are in the ornamental native garden I started this year so I'm trying to keep an eye on what I need to pull before it seeds.

Funny, the flowers look something like what she planted last year but the foliage I have growing is nothing like the pic! I have buds on a few plants so maybe by weeks end I will have a flower I can take a picture of. thanks.

esh_ga, Thank you for the help on the id of the plant, it looks like it is indeed Verbascum blattaria, and a wonderful hitchhiker that found it's way to my garden. Also, sorry about the first url, with the need to download, my OS is linux and sometimes forget that others are hesitant to download files from other places.

I finally got one right. Yeah! I started getting interested in natives about 5 years ago since I manage to kill most everything I try to grow. Last summer the family was on the Peninsula and I noticed it. The plants were covered in flies. This one is lovely, but it needs lean sand, and I have clay. I hope it works for you. Good Luck.