Hopefully more knowledgeable people will pop in but I have to say my Tropicana had fragrance from day one

I've only had one and it had no fragrance, very disappointing. I don't know if that's Tropicana, or not. It doesn't look orange enough on my monitor, and the form doesn't look quite right either. It's a beautiful rose, whatever it's name is.

Thanks oursteelers. thinking twice I remember when I came to take the cutting in August it was not blooming that time. Maybe that is why I did not remember the fragrance

Woodrose , thanks! I also read people mention their Tropicana are not fragrant. wondering whether that is the wrong condition, or the wrong rose? with so many rose varieties there it definitely makes sense to grow the fragrant one only.

Just checked with my friend, she said the rose is medium fragrant

Not Tropicana! Wrong color entirely.

That's what I thought, Moses. Plus this rose looks like it has more petals and a different bloom structure that Tropicana. HMF says Tropicana is highly scented. Diane

Thanks Moses and Diane. Yeah I agree the color is not right, and the bloom pattern also does not fit. It must be a differnent rose

Personally, I think it's prettier than Tropicana. It's a very appealing rose. Diane

Diane, thanks again! It is a pretty rose indeed. I will check out the fragrance in spring.

Steve, actually the color looks quite similar to America! she always mentions it as the Costco Coral Rose. The plant also looks like needing some support, maybe it is a climbing rose. Thanks!

Whatever it is, it's really blooming abundantly for it's first flush as seen in photo one. Since it has no older leaves left on it in the more recent photo, I wonder what happened to them...possibly black spot attacked?

It's a cluster bloomer, which further eliminates Tropicana as it's identity. Wish someone could give a positive ID, because it looks like a rose I would like to give a try in my garden, except it may be a black spotter.

Could it possibly be the climber, America, as Steve proposed above in his post? I bet it is America. The bloom color looks like a match.

Moses,

Moses, I also wonder it might be bs prone. I went to take a cutting early August, it just finished the previous flush, with a long cane reaching 7-8 feet with a couple dried flowers. Very few leaves were left. It could be black spot attack, or lack of watering.

I talked to my friend, and she agreed the flowers look very similar to America, color and shape wise. It is also fragrant. She has some doubts regarding “climbing”. Hers is grown as a bush, but even I can tell some canes would like to climb from her pictures.

I agree America is a very good guess. America was marketed as a climber, but it grows fine as a free standing bush. When trained to climb it stays rather compact.

Ben, thank! I will for now treat it as America, and train it as a climber.

It looks like my Climbing America. I lost it in the move but I am going to buy it again. I love the color!!

sultry, thanks! yeah even my friend is convinced that it likely is an America. I hope your new America will do just as great!

I went to see the rose today. It has one bloom just now. The flower is very fragrant. Old rose aroma with some spice.

Below picture was taken a few days ago. My friend says the rose has been healthy and barely ever has black spots. It sits at the side of house and normally does not get watered so it dropped most of the leaves this summer.

So I assume the America Cl identification will hold?

Could it be the Kordes rose Rosanna?

subk: thanks very much for the reply. your picture is very beautiful, pink, full rose with the dainty purple clematis!

However I doubt my friend’s rose could be Rosanna. She got it from Costco. Our Costco normally carries only older common rose varieties, like Peace, Tiffany, Mr Lincoln, etc. “Rosanna” Kordes rose is kind of new, isn’t it? HMF said it was introduced to Germany in 2002. It does not mention when it was introduced in US. Unlikely Costco will offer this rose especially if it is still under patent?

Also I checked last week and my friend’s rose was very fragrant. Yet HMF says Rosanna has none to mild fragrance.

It looks like Tropicana. Here is mine blooming in sept. It has coral shade in cold weather and orange color in spring. The fragrance is just amazing.

Tututata: thanks very much! I agree your second photo looks similar to the one I posted above. The color is beautiful!

However, another friend just showed me a few pictures of the Tropicana roses bought from Costco this year. it certainly looks very different

The Tropicana flower color is a much brighter orange, and one flower on each stiff stem.

The tropicana flower shape is also sharper or angular.

So the first friend of the unknow rose says hers could not be tropicana, more likely an America.

I get the same exact bright orange color blooms in June. You can compare all photos on HMF and you will see the color variation there.

Tututata: thanks again! the pictures I posted in the last are Tropicana roses from another friend.

The mysterious rose never has such bright orange colors in above picture. And the flower shape is more round than angular.

This is the mysterious rose in May 2020.

OP’s ”not Rosanna” reasoning is well-reasoned.

The photo from ”a few days ago” shows nice recovery from early August.

Well, it's hard to say for sure, but after looking at additional pictures, I stick with my earlier guess that it's America. I cherry-picked these 2 photos from Heirloom's website, but I think they're representative. Compare them to the photos in the original post - looks like a match to me.

I think it's very nice, though I have resisted buying one. Maybe it's that the color is a bit unique, and I am not sure what to plant near it. Or maybe it's that I don't get the "America" connection. I know it was introduced for the bicentennial, but I don't know much more than that. Does anyone have additional information about how it was named?

rifis: thanks! yes it looks like the plant has recovered well and the new leaves are clean and abundant.

Steve: thanks very much for finding the pictures from Heirloom. Definitely a close match! I already changed the little plant’s tag from ”Costco Cora rose” to America Cl. :)

The above little plant that I grew from the cutting of my friend’s mysterious, presumably America Cl rose was dig out by some voles in the winter. I bought a bareroot America from Walmart. It has its first bloom now. My friend confirmed both leaves and flower look just like hers.

It is happily climbing up the railing at our front door

Sorry your cutting got eaten, but glad you got a nice plant for yourself anyway!

Such a lovely bloom! :) :)

Thanks folks for helping solve the mystery 🌹

sultry, so you got another America rose. A lovely bloom, and huge!

Happy weekend and gardening🌹🌹🌹

No, thats my old one. I was finally able to upload a photo lol..houzz issues, they kept disappearing.

sultry, oh I see. good memory for you!