What kind of flashing tape for Marvin Elevate insert replacements
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Utterly confused about installing Marvin Ultimate Insert Window
Comments (9)gardensean, You are right. I should blame insufficient research. Mine and I accept full culpability. I am however, inclined to warn others who may be thinking of replacing windows that they should pursue every avenue available to them NOT to do what I did and get an insert. I should have figured out that an insert window would be unacceptable - to me. I'm sure you're comfortable with the idea. For my part, I would never get one again. There is no way that it could be as robust as a proper in-place installation. As per a previous poster, apparently the Canadians agree with me - and Loewen makes no such creature. This was not a DIY job. We hired a very good window installer to do the job and he just finished it today. How much? I don't feel it is any of your business, but if the window was about $800, the installation was close to one and a half times that. Expensive enough for you? He did a very good job - insulated, shimmed, sealed, screwed in etc. It looks very clean and like a very good installation. Unfortunately for me, (a) I can't stand the sight of the frame of the insert window which is unavoidable in this insert business, (b) I don't actually like the look of Marvin's thick and chunky frames and (c) I can't imagine he could have done a better job, but I have no delusions that the caulk he put in and that is [all that is] responsible for sealing the opening will last the lifetime of the window. Actually even as I say (c), I understand he did put in some additional protections to shore up and seal of the opening. However, that is not what these types of windows are designed for - he went over and above because he knew that we were having such acute misgivings about ordering the insert. And I stand by my assertion that insert windows are just a bad concept. I do wish I'd internalized the trade-offs before I ordered one in lieu of a "new construction". I also wish I'd ordered the Loewen (which ONLY makes new construction windows) instead of the Marvin....See MoreMajor Problems with Marvin Integrity Dealer
Comments (146)I know this is an old post, and likely resolved. I would like to input my .02. #1, most of the comments here (surprisingly the professionals as well) missed the part about the "FULL FRAME" install. There is a monster difference between a full frame install versus a pocket/insert installation. A big difference in price, labor and light loss. #2 If the customer knew it was a pocket install, there would have been no need to stop her kitchen remodel. The backsplash is NEVER effected by a pocket install. #3 If the contractor was planning to do a pocket install the customer would have been advised of #3 (backsplash will likely get effected by a "FULL FRAME" install. Clearly the contractor reneged on his "Full Frame" install and took a short cut. Many contractors take short cuts and try and take advantage of homeowners. The contractor was 100% wrong in this situation (assuming they agreed to a full frame install). And all contractors here who defended the contractor, should ho back and read the complaint. You only have one side of the story, and very well could be a different side. This professional opinion is based on the complaint being accurate. I wish I could have helped shed some light for you 4 years ago. Can you share an update? BTW, You likely would have GAINED light with a full frame install. Yes, gained....See MoreHorrible Smell from Marvin Integrity Windows Installed 1 month ago
Comments (121)I will cut one apart this Sunday or Monday. I seriously doubt Marvin will do anything still. The only way to identify the VOC is to do chemical analysis. I will post pictures of the inside of the frame and we can see if it is worth paying for a lab. I pulled the windows out of my house and rigged in the old ones because of the obvious health concern of 24/7 exposure....See MoreMarvin Elevate Narrow Frame New Construction
Comments (9)@Todd Just came across this thread researching something else. I realize I'm likely too late, but thought I'd weigh in just in case. You absolutely *can* use the Elevate narrow frame units in new construction, rather than only as inserts. I just did this on my own house. Also, while the details are not pictured with nailing fins, you can specify with your Marvin dealer to have them. (You can see a slot in the frame that receives the fin.) In fact, I believe the default is to include them. I assume they aren't pictured because they are being shown as inserts instead of "stand alone" units. I question why you have narrow frame casements but "non narrow frame" direct sets. Why not use the same frame depth for both so the interior details are similar? Alternatively, you could use narrow frame picture windows (stationary unit with casement sash) so the frame condition at the exterior matches. Again, just my two cents. Would love a follow up to hear how you settled to proceed....See MoreRelated Professionals
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