Shower diverter -- integrate with control valve vs no volume control?
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Shower Controller(s) Needed for Shower Head and Body Jets??
Comments (10)Well...first you need to find out the worst case scenario. Add up the flow for your two body sprays, plus the flow of your shower head. That's the GPM that you need to carry to through your shower valve and to your diverter. You;ll need a valve that can pass through that volume of water. You can do what you want with an A/B/AB diverter. Coming out of the diverter is where you can run one 1/2" copper run to the shower head and a second 1/2" copper run to the body sprays. That's when using a separate on/off valve and a separate diverter. However, for your setup, you can run all three outlets from a 1/2" copper supply going into the valve and with 1/2" copper running from the valve to the fixtures. There are quite a few valves that can do what you want. One of the last houses I did I used Hansgrohe Thermobalance III valves in all of the bathrooms in the house. The TB III is an A/B/C/BC type of valve. It's also a 1/2" valve. I used it that way in a couple of the bathroms, in others the A and B outlets are looped together (let's call this new combined AB loop "D") so you now have a D/C/DC setup. "D" can be your shower head. "C" can be your body jets. "CD" can be your car wash with everything throwing water at you. In case that's confusing, think of it as the A/B/AB valve that I described in the beginning. It's an approved way to plumb the valve, and it with the TB III having ON/OFF, temp, and diverter all in one valve, you'll have an uncluttered wall. But again, besides the TB III there are other valves out there. So can you do it with a single control head? Yes. Can you do it with 1/2" copper into the valve and 1/2" copper coming out of the valve? Yes....See MoreHandshower - does it need volume control?
Comments (4)It isn't necessary, but nice to have. I also purchased a Hansgrohe Metris thermostatic valve w volume control and diverter. We wanted our hand-shower and rain-shower head to work either separately or both be on at the same time. Also DH likes a very forceful spray and I prefer a lighter one. If it was any other bathroom besides the master I wouldn't bother, but it was a must for me....See MoreDiverter OR Volume Controls OR Both?
Comments (8)So the idea with a diverter is to have one control output in two different places.. So you could have one control and when you change the diverter, it swiches between the shower head and the hand shower. I think you could also plumb it with two totally separate controls, then you would NOT use a diverter in either. As for volume control, I think it comes down to preference.. When we recently re-did our shower, we got a unit without volume control.. I thought I would miss it, but in practice I don't. Random thoughts. Pressure balanced is much cheaper than thermostatic. If you want to hit that price range AND have two controls instead of a diverter, you might find the thermostatic will blow your budget. If/what kind of rough-in box will depend on the brand/model you buy. We purchased a Hans Grohe, and they require an "ibox" for each control. -john...See Moredual shower heads controlled with s single valve?
Comments (6)Did you want them to operate at the same time? I am in California so it is not permitted to use more than one water fixture at the same time. However I have two hand held shower heads and one fixed shower head and they are all controlled by my three way diverter. I have a thermostatic valve which controls the temperature - the diverter turns the fixtures on/off and selects the specific shower head. I would recommend a thermostatic control valve versus a pressure balance. It's slightly more expensive but much better. In my experience every decent plumbing line makes a three way diverter - pick the style of your fixtures and then have your GC and plumber order everything (rough and trim) so that he/she takes full responsibility for it being correct and available when needed....See Moreplan2remodel
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