They are opening shopping carts silently in December???!
Since this has evolved into a discussion about white roses I thought I post 2 of my favs. Each plant was planted just 5 months ago!
Ben - you're right...Zephirine has moved! :) Today is a rainy day here...great day for them to add new varieties! :) :) I think Aubade looks wonderful!! I want one!! :) :) Really interesting and beautiful that Full Sail looks like that! :)
Kristine - LOL...yup...it's fun. :)
I googled and it's one of the roses in NIRP's parfum collection.
@BenT (9B Sunset 14) I like Chantilly Cream, but off-topic question--does yours proliferate a lot? I got mine as a spur of the moment purchase during an end-of-season sale at my local nursery, and almost every single flush since I got it in June has been ruined by proliferation. I'm wondering if the nursery did something to it, or if it's just prone to this.
New Zealand looks so good..I'm worried it'd ball in our foggy cool climate but it always smells amazing when I see it.
Palatine will open for bare root rose ordering 9/14/2020 at 9am EST
Palatine's Amour de molene( badly chopped roots)
Palatine and Tantau piano roses.
Palatine- what are you ordering?
I’ve seen no proliferatons from Chantilly Cream (and I do have other varieties that proliferate). It’s one of my top roses because its so consistent in form, size, petal count and fragrance. Maybe too much nitrogen?
If New Zealand / Full Sail ball in cool coastal weather, well ,they also shut down in hot weather. That makes them quite finicky if they have problems over much of California, when California is probably about the best place in N America to grow roses. Mine does look really good in spring and fall, so I’ll keep it, but perhaps in a less prominent place where it can sulk all summer,.
New roses have been posted! They are mostly Kordes,. These appear new to me, anyone notice anything else?
Blue Girl (Sauvageot, 2008, not the old Kordes).Rosemantic Cream
I think that Quebec is new
Thanks Kristine, I wasn’t sure about Quebec
I think that courage is beautiful and I have been tempted by Blue Girl and may finally cave.
There are so pretty and unique offerings this year.
I will get The Pride even though I need another lavender like a need a hole in the head. Rosemantic Cream looks good too, seems to have the best OGR form of the Rosemantics.
Note that this a newer Blue Girl by Sauvageot, it’s not the old Home Depot body bag Blue Girl.
@oursteelers 8B PNW how does Black Caviar last for you on the bush and in the vase? I’m having to re-evaluate how many new roses I can really get.
Ben my Black Caviar gets only morning sun and lasts quite a while on the bush. I don’t generally cut for the vase-I did one time with this one because I was trying to capture the true color but I don’t remember how long it lasted.
I’ve only had it since spring but I love it. Super fragrant and healthy makes it a winner in my book
Here I was thinking I didn’t need to get Blue Girl since I already have it…..
Ben, I think that the Pride is one of those beautifully unique roses that will go fast.
Kristine, I agree! I was just thinking that The Pride will be this year’s Augusta Luise.
Yup, I would love a The Pride rose too! :) :) I sure wish Blue Girl had fragrance. That's a deal breaker, darn it.
Oursteelers - I'm going to try to get a Black Caviar! :) :)
Carol it says fragrant. Did you see something that says it isn’t? Cause that’s a deal breaker for me too
On HMF it notes Palatine’s Blue Girl has only mild scent. (but the old body bag version has a nice scent). Palatine lists it as ;’softly scented’ usually a euphemism for ’can’t smell a thing’
HMF also says The Pride won the Prix de Perfum in Rome. Again, we were saying The Pride will go fast!
They’ve definitely added roses, but they still have this disclaimer in the page…
Then again, Flaming Star won the Glasgow Tollcross Fragrance Award, and it’s fragrance is listed as light. Maybe they don’t like their roses too fragrant in Glasgow?
Ben - really? I'm interested in Flaming Star but thought that the fragrance was poor. Maybe I'll do a bit more research on that one...it's SO beautiful! Yeah, I think we'll all want The Pride. :)
3 more new offerings
Peach melba climber
Athena is new too!
Baroness from Tantau
Yay!!!!!! Dmitri is pure white💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
I’m gonna need to take out a second mortgage. SO MANY EXCITING ONES just added!!!!’
All roses have been added.
I just love todays new offerings
I bet many of us are wishing we had a second garden and an assistant rose gardener so we could try out all these new varieites!
Baronesse is a sport of Mariatheresia! 😍👏👏👏 I need her!
Ooh Dylan Rose has those really cupped blooms that I love https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.77478&tab=36
Since I looked at about 2 it looks like about 5 or 6 more have been added. I guess that I eed to start planting the vacant house next door.
They have made it extremely difficult this year haven't they?
The second mortgage is to have an actual second house for all the roses, right? 🤣 Since we don't all have a vacant next door house.
my neighbor built such a tall fence last year because he was worried I was going to start planting in his yard...
Ha ha Librarian
The problem with planting next door is that eventually someone will buy that house and my luck they will be rose haters and yank all of my beautiful roses.
Hopefully whoever buys that house will be a gardner
I would love that
I don't think Sonnenwelt is new but I somehow overlooked it before. I just looked it up on Helpmefind and I am smitten! Does anyone grow this one?https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.65547.2&tab=36
That one got my eye too
Everytime Iook I see that they have snuck a couple more in
So fun! :)
I want to add Gruaud LaRose to my list. :) Maybe First Crush...does anyone have this and LOVE it?
This Photo from Heirloom Rose's website of First Crush in an arrangement makes me want to buy it but I haven't succumbed yet
That’s a beautiful pic. But I think a number of roses could have worked there…Mme Anisette, Earth Angel, Francis Meilland, Love Song anything that’s a full petalled pastel, and there are many of those. Maybe one you already have. Just trying to help you resist lol!
Every time I look at neighbors’ lawns now I think its a missed opportunity for 30+ new Palatine roses!
Ben, I think the birds and bees would like it too.
Houzz is being weird and keeps cutting out the maybe that I type at the beginning of that sentence. "Maybe my neighbor built..." I guess Houzz knows something I don't. Lol.
Bentheimer Gold and Meteor just went on my wishlist
Carol, I agree about Gruard Larose
What a beautiful rose. Although I hate growing roses that spell or pronounce
Meg - Oh my heavens!!! That is INCREDIBLE!!! Can you imagine how much it would cost to buy that arrangement?!! I think it's the most beautiful bouquet I've EVER seen!
Kristine - yeah...that's a hard one to pronounce. :)
Kitty - do you grow First Crush?
Heh, heh....Houzz lost my above comments... BUT, I had saved it before I clicked on Submit. Score Houzz 0, Carol 1!!!!
Carol I do and the blooms are really, really pretty bit stingy. I moved mine last week to up sun exposure by a couple hours to see if that helps
Oh, thank you, Oursteelers! I'll delete the question I wrote about it on the Seasonal Thread. :)
Thanks, Ben! I do have Madame Anisette and my wish list is much too big for my space as it is. What is it about roses that makes us all want more than we can possibly fit or manage? Every time I say to myself "ok, no more" I find another that I absolutely MUST have. 🤦♀️
Okay I'm going to mention an oldie that people don't seem to get excited about but that has been absolutely wonderful for me in it's first year
Moore's Green Ice. It's a mini with perfect bush shape, easy going and constantly pumping out flushes and I've never dead headed....just shook off old petals. I'm expecting its blooms to get more petal packed as it matures since old photos on this forum make it look almost like a mini Madame Hardy.
This is a great landscape shrub. It's perfectly branched and looks great from a distance and up close, always with blooms. Of course, being a hard working mini, i just took it for granted and never took a photo until today, where you'll see that it's at the end of a flush.
Here you can see it before I've shook off the old blooms.
I decided to share photo from before shaking off old blooms just so you all could see something not Instagram perfect.
I started to look up roses on Help Me Find, but accidentally typed Help Me Fund roses. 🤣
Well, I suppose we need that, too, Markay 🤣
Markay, I think that you may be on to something
I agree @librarian_gardner_8b_pnw that Green Ice is a nice rose. It is almost always in bloom and healthy. I haven’t (knock on wood) noticed much midge damage on it.