Road Trip planning. Kelowna BC to Clearwater area Fl.
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Comments (72)Some great information on this thread. I am in the SF Bay Area, USDA zone 10a (according to the maps) or Sunset zone 16. Recently I've become interested in tropical and subtropical plants, and which species I might be able to grow in my yard. I do have some questions about the USDA zones though, I know they go by average low temperatures instead of extreme lows, so by that definition my zone should be 11, not 10a, because all the climate information I can find says that the lowest average temperature here is 40 degrees (December 28th through January 1st are statistically the coldest days of the year). Yet zone 10a is for average low temperatures between 30-35 degrees - which zone am I in? Temperatures in the mid- to upper-30s aren't uncommon at all here in the winter when cooler systems pass through, but drops into the 20s happen maybe 1-3 times a year. The lowest temperature I have recorded at my house is 27 degrees, and we have had snow once (about an inch or less) on one occasion in the past decade, that was sort of a freak incident. This is all pretty typical for Sunset zone 16, which I feel is a much better description of my area than USDA zone 10a. Using the Sunset zones is difficult though, because none of the nurseries here use them, and because they mainly describe where a plant grows best, not where it just grows. So now I'm left wondering what I can get away with in my area... As mentioned above, mature Strelitzia reginae is not an uncommon sight here in the Bay Area. Maybe it's not as common as in LA, but it's definitely here. I actually just planted one in my yard today, and I'm anxious to see how it does. I fully expect it to get a bit of frost damage in the winter, but that doesn't bother me at all as long as the plant itself lives. I was also considering putting a Dwarf Cavendish Banana in the same spot, but decided against it because they are apparently not as cold hardy, and that particular location can get a bit windy. I am interested in planting more subtropicals/hardy tropicals in my yard if I can. I know there are some particularly cold hardy bananas, so I'm going to look into those. Has anyone had success growing Passionfruit in the Bay Area? I love vines and particularly the flowers of Passiflora. I am also considering putting a Pineapple Guava if I can find a good place, since it would be nice to have something that bears fruit (I have a couple nectarine trees, but none of their fruits mature because of peach leaf curl that I can't get rid of)....See MoreOutdoor (natural) attractions in your area?
Comments (34)haha...Annie...In 2010 I had never ridden further than 60 miles in a day. I took of with my trailer and rode with 2 friends from St Augustine to San Diego 3200 miles ! We avg 55 a day. Loved it so much that in 2011 a couple of us rode from Key West FL to Bar Harbor ME ...only 2800 miles !! Had a great time again. In 2012 only 2 of us and we started in Victoria BC...we rode up and over and down and when I was mid Saskatchewan BC I stopped as my DS 2 was ill and so was my cycling partner. Only did 1500 mi that ride. It is amazing what you learn about you and the country and the people on a bike ride. It is a life-changing adventure. Kelly...I sure do remember the hill country with great fondness. We rode almost exclusively on back roads. I loved the rivers and the "hills" which are pretty darn big ! And the fantastic food and people...and the amazing pecan trees ! All of it was fantastic ! I hope you do decide to take up camping . I camped a different place in Tx every night with my tent for 20 nights. It was amazing. c...See MoreOur New England / Canada trip
Comments (28)Yup, definitely better off in Niagara on the Lake than NF! The carriage ride sounds nice though. The last time I went to the falls w/ some friends we took them on a hot air balloon ride which was also a nice way to see it. We had great food too, don't get me wrong! Lots of seafood and lobster chowder and delicious muscles! Did you have PEI muscles on Prince Edward Island? We ate lobster, but I actually liked the lobster stews and seafood stews better than just the plain lobster for the most part. We just got a little sick of the local restaurants in the area where we were since we ate out every single day for a month (it was nice to eat in Bar Habor, Calais, Eastport and the other places we visited!) Did you go to Acadia National Park on your trip or no? We did a nice lighthouse/ nature tour in Bar Harbor, which had gorgeous scenery. We were on a lake, not the ocean. We picked a lake b/c we were told the water was much warmer on lakes in Maine and actually swimmable as opposed to the ocean which was too cold. May have been why there were so many mosquitos! Glad to hear that you'll be doing some remodeling at least :) A new kitchen, baths and a pool sound fun to do! We're embarking on a backyard landscape/screen porch project soon, but no swimming pool. Summer place: We want weather that is reasonable cool (no 80 degree days); a place where we can be on open water (lake or ocean, no houses visible) and a place where we can have at least 5 acres. I've learned my lesson after FL and I will never buy property on less than 3-5 acres again, I don't care how good the view is. It would be nice if it wasn't a super far drive from PA but that seems unlikely. If anyone has rental suggestions for next summer for a place for us to try, I'd be open to hearing them :) In the meantime, we're shifting our focus to finding a new FL house to buy (hoping the old one sells quickly this winter!) and will wait a few years for the summer home....See MoreRetirement in FL? (Not to be Stereotypical... but we get it now)
Comments (47)It's funny because I live "outdoors" a lot more when I go down to Florida than I do up North - because of the giant lanai! I can spend all day outside by the pool. Up North the mosquitoes just keep me miserable almost all hours of the day. My inlaws live in an HOA (golf community) and I'm sure they must spray because the bugs really aren't bad outside at all. Not sure about the pesticide implications for human health. I only visited Sarasota once in the summer (July) and yes it was hot, but AC everywhere, gorgeous beach weather and cooling rains every afternoon were nice for me. It was maybe 95-100 highs but it was mid-80s the whole time I was down just now in February anyway! Up in Nova Scotia it only gets that hot for a week or two in the summer, but few people have AC so it ends up being a lot more unbearable. At your price you might be able to get a canal-side home if you want to be near the water. I'd love that, but of course with it comes flooding consideration. My inlaws happily come home in April: they prefer the snowbird life....See Morelikestonehomes
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