Any tips on treating manganese and boron deficiencies in soil?
Mark Furtak SoCal Sunset 10/USDA 8b
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Excess Zinc and Boron
Comments (42)c.e.c was 10.8 1n 2000, and is now 21.1 -- the increase can only have come from added organic material. Okay, I'll buy that. You never said how much the zinc increased or how it was extracted (again, this is just for giggles because I guarantee you don't have a zinc toxicity problem). I'm also still wondering how boron was extracted. It should say on the data sheet what method was used or the lab can answer that question. It makes a big difference in how the data is interpreted. Pagardner - yes, if there are symptoms showing, tissue analysis is a good way to confirm whether or not those or other elements are an issue. However, the OP hasn't mentioned any problems with plants. Without any symptoms, I wouldn't spend the money testing healthy tissue collected from plants that perform well. It's also pretty easy to get tripped up with tissue analysis. All of the reference data is based on particular tissue collected at a particle point in development. If you get the wrong tissue and compare it to the reference data, it can look like you have excesses and deficiencies that aren't really there....See MoreMagnesium deficiency & foliar Epsom Salt
Comments (6)That's interesting -- about the boron. Which fertilizers have that in them, and how does one find out if it's in a particular fertilizer? The fertilizers I use have a "guaranteed analysis" for the usual ingredients, but that that doesn't mean they don't also contain other stuff. My usual fertilizer is Biosol, label linked below, and the other one I commonly use is Magnum Rose Food, a water soluble, by Grow More. But sometimes I also use a micronutrient powder and now that I look, on its label I see it says it contains "10 ppm Boron", which raises the question, how much is too much -- Is that even a noticeable amount? Thanks Kathy Here is a link that might be useful: Biosol label...See MorePlant Nutrient Deficiencies. This will help you!
Comments (8)Mike, good idea to post symptoms here, but since it is a citrus forum, I should point out that in many cases, the symptoms you've listed don't occur on citrus, and that the actual symptoms on citrus are quite different from those listed. For example: Calcium -- seldom visible symptoms on citrus Magnesium -- never symptoms on new growth of citrus; old growth shows a characteristic "inverted V" of green at the base of the leaf and yellow-orange above. Phosphorus -- I've never seen a citrus tree exhibit the purpling of leaves; rather, reduced fruit size and yield is most common. Boron -- in citrus, shows up as dead, sunken, gray or brown areas in the albedo (white part) of the fruit peel. Usually no other symptoms. Copper -- Growth may be unusually vigorous, producing huge, deep blue-green leaves, but the stems are too weak to support the weight, so they bow unusually, giving what is known as an "S" shape to the limb. Also, such limbs develop blisters on the epidermis which swell, then burst open, and ooze a sticky sap. Then in areas of the world that have fire ants (e.g., Florida), the ants are attracted to the sap, and they chew away the epidermis, killing the twigs entirely. Manganese -- at least in Florida, even a fairly severe deficiency generally has no effect on yield. Molybdenum -- older leaves are green with large (up to 1/4") yellow spots, like large freckles....See MoreLinks to identify nutrients deficiencies & cheapest fertilizer
Comments (56)Re-post the info. from the other thread: The problem with lime? Its high pH kills the soil bacteria that fixes nitrogen, so lime UNDO the effect of nitrogen-fertilizer like alfalfa. I put lime in Pink Peace's planting hole, since the soil was previously occupied by a large bush, plus I wanted to tone-down its gaudy color. The result? Calcium & other nutrients deficiency in young leaves, along with less petals and flowers that don't last long. Calcium could not be released since the pH is too high in the planting hole. Will have to dig Pink Peace AGAIN after its 3rd flush. Grafted Pink Peace gives me hell, compared to much-cleaner-own-root. I dug it up 4th of July since it black spotted on me, fixed the hole with compost & lime, it became pale & less petals after that. It's really hard to achieve balance of nutrients, so I'm better off using slow-released balanced stuff: red-lava-rock & pea gravel, compost, alfalfa hay. My GRAFTED Pink-Peace black spots be it wet or dry. Above pic, it's a calcium deficiency, since the young leaves are, "New leaves (top of plant) are distorted or irregularly shaped. Causes blossom-end rot." see link below: http://extension.arizona.edu/sites/extension.arizona.edu/files/pubs/az1106.pdf I get tons of blossom-end-rot on my cherry-tomato: the one I forgot to put gypsum in the planting hole. Gypsum is questionable on top, but great in the planting hole, since it's evenly distributed, rather than gunking on top to burn roots. Below is a good chart:...See MoreMark Furtak SoCal Sunset 10/USDA 8b
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