diy build a loft bed or buy pre-made loft bed?
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Comments (37)Again, macv's and the other's designs are prohibited from use under the International Residential Code if they access habitable spaces. I recently prosecuted a local builder/developer over just such an issue and won. The builder/developer came in with a set of plans for a 6 unit townhouse with a mezzanine level above the 2nd floor that was access by a "library ladder" from the 2nd floor atrium/foyer....Very similar to some of those shown here. The mezzanine was labeled on the plans as 'storage' and the design approved because this loft was not going to be used as habitable space. Once the units were built, and the Certificates to Occupy were issued, the builder/developer signed a contract with a local realtor to show the units. That's where the trouble for the builder/developer began. I was directed to the realtor's website where for her 'staging' she had arranged this mezzanine area as a habitable area, complete with sofas, living room furniture and day beds. These were permitted as 3 bedroom townhouses, yet the realtor's description of the units indicated they were 4 bedroom homes...the mezzanine clearly being listed as an additional sleeping space. The result: Our office revoked the certificates of occupancy and ordered the builder to either replace the 'library ladders' with stairs that met the code, or to stop advertising these units as 'bedrooms' with habitable mezzanines. The builder/developer objected and filed an appeal with the Appeals Board. The Appeals Board, once seeing the false advertising, concluded as well that the builder/developer had intended all along to use these levels as habitable space and provided false information to our code office. The Appeals Board ordered the builder/developer to do exactly as we had ordered: change the library ladders to code compliant stairs since it was obvious their intended use was as habitable space. The builder/developer did not stop there, however. He filed suit, but unfortunately for him, lost again. The judge agreeing that these lofts were indeed intended as habitable space, and that the builder/developer must comply with our order or face daily fines until he did. The result: The builder/developer had to not only pay for all the costs associated with his challenges, in the end he was forced to install code compliant spiral stairs in order to have a certificate to occupy each townhouse reinstated. About $50,000 more. Moral of the story: The CODES prevail when it comes to designs acceptable for compliance, not the whims or imagination of designers, builders, developers, realtors or anyone else. macv's mis-use of the Code is apparant even as he tries to support his erroneous positions by stating from it. While it is true that 'alternative designs' are allowed, it is NOT TRUE that these alternate designs can violate the prescriptive intent of the Code. macv's link from the IRC section R104.11 rightly states: 'The provisions of this code are not intended to prevent the installation of any material or to prohibit any design or method of construction not specifically prescribed by this code....." But macv is forgetting entirely that R104.11 also mandates: "... provided that any such alternative has been approved. An alternative material, design or method of construction shall be approved where the building official finds that the proposed design is satisfactory and complies with the intent of the provisions of this code, and that the material, method and work offered is, for the purpose intended, at least equivalent of that of the prescribed code." NONE of the designs illustrated by macv and others provide methods "at least equivalent" to that of the prescriptive code requirement for residential stairs. None. They are designs that are LESS RESTRICTIVE and therefore unfit to be "approved". -------------- I don't have time to point out macv's flawed use of the other code sections he cites....none of which even pertain at to residential habitable spaces. That said, I work in an office that employs 32 code inspectors all of whom are former trade professionals. The collective experience of all these men and women in the building and code inspection professions is many hundreds of years. I showed macv's photos to my colleagues today, where they were met utter amazamement that someone could be so wrong in his insistance he was right. Few were surprised, however, because we see it all the time from some designers. Their conclusion: macv's and the other unsafe 'ladder' designs ARE prohibited from being used to access habitable spaces in residential buildings. So don't be mislead and don't take my word for it. Talk to your local code professionals. After all, it is THEY who issue your permits and THEY who approve your designs. And by the way, The Appeals Board that rejected the builder/developer's "ladder"? Made up entirely of local engineers and local architects.... Not sure why some are dead set on misleading the readers of this thread, but I'll give them cresit where credit is due: they are quite good at it....See Moreloft upstairs needs cooling
Comments (4)Old-fashioned swamp coolers only work in very dry climates and you need a route for regress of the cool, humidified air to the outside. Under some conditions, any air from the swamp cooler mixes with the mechanically-chilled air, you existing AC will get slapped with the huge load of removing the added humidity. Maybe you are talking about some new-fangled type with a heat exchanger instead? By "portable unit" do you mean the ones with wheels and hoses? Any of those will be less efficient than a conventional window unit so I suggest you go with a window unit. If you have to go with a movable, portable unit, be sure to get one with two hoses rather than one. Single-hose models are very inefficient. O.K., Willard, how many rats do you have? Be nice to those rats. Since they are captive, you have a great responsibility to keep Ben and Socrates comfortable. Seriously, rats, among rodents, make the best pets, but they are the smartest and need to be kept entertained to say mentally healthy. They are not easily amused. Give them lots of toys in the cages and keep them cool. For cooling you could experiment with giving them some of those freezer packs in the cages. Just tossing them in there probably won't work because direct contact will be too cold and uncomfortable. One option would be to insulate the packs on five sides and semi-insulate the top so they can lie on a cool surface. Another thing to try would be to build them a small, insulated box with an entry hole. Divide the interior to wall-off the freezer pack. Experiment and see what they like better. If you are going to rely on this, make sure that you don't forget before leaving and make the poor little fellows suffer. You obviously can't leave for more than a few hours or maybe a day which is a serious drawback....See MoreAdding a loft to my office?
Comments (92)Whether his wife ends up using it or not, Mike has himself a nice man cave. I think changing the position of the ladder is a good move--going up, there is now a feeling of spaciousness as you approach the loft instead of the wall, there's one less open side and the ladder isn't in the middle of the small room, the desk is better on that side, and continuing it as an L under the stairs now seems more useable. It's a nice one-person room for the activities he has mentioned that he does, and his wife will probably end up doing her art work in the basement. Anne...See MoreSleeping Lofts and Bathrooms
Comments (40)Mark, my scream below every time I pass it....... The Mushroom House or Pod House is a contemporary residence in the town of Perinton, New York which has been featured in television programs (notably HGTV's Offbeat America series)[2] and books (notably the Weird U.S. series)[3] due to its whimsical appearance. Patterned after umbels of Queen's Anne's Lace, its brown color is more suggestive of mushrooms.[4] The house was constructed for attorney-artist couple Robert and Marguerite Antell between 1970 and 1972 and was designated a town landmark in 1989.[5] The structure is sited in a moderately-wooded ravine adjacent to Powder Mills Park. The house itself comprises four 80 ton pods which rest on reinforced concrete stems of 14 to 20 feet in height. These fan out from three feet in diameter where they connect to the pods to five feet at the base.[6] The sides of each pod's "cap" are completely windowed. One pod serves as the living and dining area, one as the kitchen, and two as sleeping areas. An additional "half pod" provides an open deck area.[7] The house has 3 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms in 4,168 square feet....See Moretlynn1960
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