Crepuscule would be a much larger plant than the shrub form of Lady Hillingdon. The one at the SJHRG, as a climber, is immense; I had a free-standing Crepuscule that was approx. 7-8' tall and 9-10' wide after 6 or 7 years in the ground, at which point I lost it to oak root fungus. The edges of the blooms would crisp on hot days, but there were always a bunch of new blooms opening, so it looked reasonably good even in heat waves. A touch of mildew in the spring, maybe, but very clean foliage overall. It's a wonderful rose. Alliance Franco-Russe held prime real estate here for over 6 years but literally never, during that entire time, was without severe mildew, even in late summer when even the roses most prone to it usually shake it off, if only briefly. It's now gone and I don't miss it. Lux, your Etoile de Lyon doesn't get the "brown ruff"? The Australian tea book notes that it happens for EdL, too. Here both EdL and Souvenir de Pierre Notting get it (EdL worse than SdPN, actually), but usually only during their first flush and maybe late, late in the fall. I have attributed it to the conditions being both damp and cool then, not heat, because flushes later in the summer on both generally have very little browning of the outer petals (even with dew in the morning) and produce the best flowers. (photos of them below were taken this morning). I wasn't all that impressed with Souvenir de Pierre Notting, either, until this year. The bush has finally filled in well and the flushes have gone from desultory and meager to substantial. I haven't been treating it any differently -- I think it's just reached a level of maturity that allows better blooms. My Celine Forestier is definitely yellow. In the photo taken this morning (below) there's a slight pinkish cast that happens later in the season; the first flush is generally pure pale yellow and flowers 5" across that look like pom-poms (later-season flowers smaller). Ingrid, I'm curious to know what color was yours? Souvenir de Pierre Notting: Etoile de Lyon: Celine Forestier:

Sorry, I'm not picture savvy. As for details, this is a suburban condo. My back garden extends about 18' from the back door then meets a huge, open common area. That changes into native trees and shrubby undergrowth and a creek about 50 yds away. A lovely view. Until next year when the County is tearing it up to put in a 4 lane road!!!! We expect it will still be about 50-60 yds away but with no buffers. My beds do include trees and some shrubs at the edges. The shadier side is heavily planted but has one 4' gap between a Viburnum and a giant redbud with a very large trunk. The other is on a curve with a small trunked yellowwood on one side, my path on the other and nothing behind that will block the view. This area is pretty open and the tree is about 4' from the path. Both trees were limbed up years ago (for unknown reasons) so there's lots of height available. The soil is heavy clay and acidic to around 6.3. Yes. I do recognize that the height vs width is a problem. I've been wrestling with that for months. But I'm getting too old to do regular pruning and the most I'm willing to do is hire some idiot with a pair of loppers once a year.

So without any dimensions just going off what I can see in the photo here is a conceptual layout. I'm visualizing SW Passive as the dominant color with Seawashed Glass as the accent. I hope this helps!

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