Please help me with my vanilla patio…
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Comments (11)as noted.. until you define a use ... then size can not be defined.. and until that is defined.. shape is kinda not pertinent ... do you plant on entertaining??? .. how many peeps.. barbies.. chairs .... outdoor bar.. etc ... otherwise.. a walkway between the doors is good enough ... in the alternative to walling and raising the grade.. you could add steps down.. and use the current grade ... but not unlike painting.. a good job.. will be 90% prep ... i have only built two patios... and the best advice i can offer.. is define a size.. and then double it.. and you will still wish you went bigger... lol .. e.g. 20 odds years ago.. i was going to put in a brick patio ... i dont recall the exact numbers.. but lets say i thought 16 by 16 was perfect .. well.. i took my fire pit.. and the Adirondack chairs i had.. and set them up on the driveway .. along with the barbies.. chalked out the space .... and found out it was the perfect size.. for it all to fit .... but for the fact that there was no room to walk between any of it... lol.. yeah.. kinda a major setback ... so the patio ended up something like 20 by 25 ... a much more USABLE space .. and the cost difference.. was minimal ... mostly just the brick itself ... i suggest you start your design process with a simple walkway between the doors... offset from the house with any garden beds you want near the house ... and then extend away from the house.. in shape and form.. consistent to how you foresee how you will use it ... it is probably.. not much different that designing a kitchen space when you incorporate all the work spaces... Appliances .. and a seating areas .. it just outdoors ... so it doesnt have to be all mystical and what not ... how do you see its usage.. and plan accordingly ... ken...See MoreHelp me enjoy dinner on my patio without being blinded!
Comments (4)What about one of those giant cantilevered umbrellas they can get a lot more tilt and being set away from the table you might be able to get the angle right instead of the table umbrella?...See MoreHelp with my vanilla strawberry standard
Comments (16)Oh, my! I would seriously consider moving those Pinky Winky further out. Mine at 9 years is something approaching 12’ wide and I imagine yours will look squished against the steps given a few years. I will see if I have a photo for you of mine, but others have posted some of the larger panicled hydrangeas looking quite squished. With that level of shade, have you considered one of the smooth hydrangeas/ H. arborescens for around the shed? I have Annabelle where it gets sun until about 2 and it does well. There are also some pink ones. From the photo I like how the white phlox adds to the frothy impression, but it may be different in person. Edited to add that the photo Hyed posted half way down the linked thread shows what I think your Pinky Winkys may look like in a few years since they like Hyed’s Limelights and Quickfire are of a similar large size. https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5724796/your-thoughts-on-limelight-hydrangea-placement#n=20 and edited to add a photo of my Pinky Winky. In this photo the plant was in its 4th growing season, and to give an idea of scale, the spiral trellis visible when the photo is enlarged is 5’ tall. I had to move the trellis a couple of years later because the shrub had completely covered it....See MoreHelp me design my front patio and steps?
Comments (6)Millworkman, Here are pictures of the space. It's about 150 - 200 square feet. We will be hiring out. I'm not sure about the budget, I'm just not sure how much hardscape costs. Andrea, I love that terracotta (?) flooring / pavers and rocks, do you have any idea what those materials are? Do you know if they are on the more economical side? Thank you!...See Moretaywel
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