This is the answer I received from them to my own query. "We grow some own root stock here, some field grown bare root grafted and own root stock in the San Joaquin Valley, CA, as well as we source out some varieties bare root from Canada and Europe. We ship bare root Jan. through April (January some varieties sell out already though held for later shipment). Potted roses are available year round. California grown roses are own root or Dr. Huey, and Canadian and European varieties are on Rosa multiflora root stalk." I bought Buff Beauty, Souvenir de la Malmaison, Penelope and Baron from them all grafted, and I believe on multiflora. I buried the bud union and hope for the best:-). No sign of trouble yet, and SDLM is no wimp at 3' in three months. Masha

Virginia and nastarana, thank you for your suggestions. Due to the drought and heat which global warming will only exacerbate, I've cut down on the number of roses and have no room for one of these lovelies. I did know about Pleasant Hill Cemetery and Manchester Guardian Angel, having seen one or both on the Vintage site, but frankly neither of them would be my first choice. I had a few beautiful blooms of Mrs. Wood's Lavender Pink Noisette before she succumbed to a hot summer, and something similar would be my ideal. I hope to feed my fondness for the noisettes by seeing pictures here from those people who are lucky enough to grow them well. Ingrid

I think the first one may be a grafted Gymnocalycium mahonavichii and the second some kind of Euphorbia maybe. Steve

Dave you are very lucky! Sounds like the best system to me. Good luck on your beds and seedlings. Paula