Thanks for the information--I'm also comparing with what they say in the Austin catalog, which is that Ambridge rose, Carding Mill, The Alnwick Rose and Winchester Cathedral all end up on their hot/dry climate rose list and Sharifa Asma is on their hot/humid list. I'm finding this hard to believe for Alnwick rose though, since these blooms seem to wilt in the heat of my St. Louis garden. I see someone in Texas has had good success with Scepter'd Isle and Ambridge rose also I wanted to get one of the smaller ones Austin sells as a container plant rather than bare root, since it will be a gift and my friend may want to keep it potted for a while. I'm tending to think given the color scheme they have in their yard that he'd like a white/cream or pale pink one, maybe: Scepter'd Isle Eglantyne Sharifa Asma Winchester Cathedral. Let me know if you have any opinions/info about any of these.

Could it be First Prize? That was a popular rose back then, IIRC. My next guess would be Charlotte Armstrong, but I'm thinking Charlotte Armstrong's a bit deeper pink than your pictures. If it's First Prize it should only be mildly fragrant.

Joey, I always appreciate your posts because I know that whatever works for you will have a good chance working for me. I just read through this thread and am really thankful your Mountain Music was planted as a band in the fall and survived! I planted my wee little lass just a couple weeks ago and she’s maybe a foot tall. I’m a little worried though since you have pretty reliable snow cover all winter...we get tons of snow but go through a lot of freeze-thaw cycles too. I guess we’ll see how it goes. To chime in on an earlier conversation, I had a coral knockout rose that I ended up getting rid of but my one Home Depot, dime-a-dozen rose that I’ve actually grown to quite like is Oso Easy Peasy. She went through pretty fierce transplant shock after I planted her but quickly rebounded and is constantly covered in blooms. Black spot clean and a really lovely shape to the foliage kinda sealed the deal. Thanks for this thread, from one cold-zoner to another! I appreciate hearing about your experiences.

I had thought that as well, Diane, but didn't see the orange tinge in the pics. So last night/early morning I did some sleuthing and found this company, Windmill, is out of Canada and is a part of PanAmerican Nurseries. Looking through their catalogue, I suspect they are the source for many roses sold at both Palatine and Hortico. They sell the roses you bought in two sizes. I looked through their catalogue with no luck finding these exact roses, but suspect they are one of the various Canadian offerings from AgCanada. Calling would be the only way to truly ID them, but I presume they are off-patent or there is some reason they don't use the true name. This is the company. https://panamnursery.com Click for the PDF Pan American Catalogue. The hardy roses start on page 26 and the reference to yours are on page 54/55 listed as Showpot and Showtainers. Looking through these pics again, I wonder if the red one might not beEmily Carr, (p.28) one of the Canadian Artist Series, although it is listed for Z3 and yours is Z4. Morden Sunrise (p. 30) is also listed as Z3. Perhaps that info could help find yours. Of course you could always solve the mystery by just calling! LOL! : -D P.S. I think yours are the #1 grade 3 litre Showpots.