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The thrill of Summer and the long wait for Spring group thread

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Thankfully we're in Summer now. Yay!!!! I'm so excited for the beginning of the season!! For those of you waiting for Spring, enjoy our pictures as we enjoyed yours during our time of waiting. We're here for each other to celebrate and to support. As the trees suggest...love is in the air. So bring on the pictures!!

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It's wonderful to see so many blooms from everyone here. Everything finally opened up in my garden this week. I had enough blooming to give away a few bouquets and to make a plonk for myself. 😊

It's the 3rd or 2nd year for most of my roses and it's really wonderful to see things taking off.

Wollerton Old Hall

PAoK and Lyda.

My riot of color.

I just want to spend all day in the garden. It's so hard to go to work this time of year!

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Berrypie, hopefully you have better luck than me. In my experience (not that I'm any sort of expert of course) the only color muscari that has reliably come back after several years is the original indigo colored ones. My white, pink, and light blue ones just don't do as well, disappearing altogether over time. Maybe they just hate my climate and/or soil, though, who knows.
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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Kitty, Burlington has own root The Fawn/Faun. I cant recommended this rose enough . It has never had a bit of disease. It did get so heavy with blooms that it went splat

But after the blooms were spent I cut it back and it went right back up.

You cant see but there are dozens of buds ready to open.
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Diane Brakefield
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Are all of you still having problems clicking on photos here? I am, and I won't be posting photos until they fix this latest mess. I really think ho@zz wants to get rid of us. I also wonder if it's time to start a new thread. In the past, various problems with photos and posts increased when this thread got really long. Diane
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berrypiez6b
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rosecanadian I loved your rendition of a Bumble a day, wish I knew the tune . The bee water station is attracting mostly wasps , I have to dodge them whenever I want to look at the flowers. Think I'll move the water dish farther away - it only took weeks for my old brain to come up with that simple solution.

Magpie thanks for your input on the light blue Muscari, that will take more research. Last year sky blue Lobelia was nowhere to be found at nurseries, so I put in a darker blue and hated it all summer. Without access to the color of plants I want, it's hard to fit it all together, the garden just doesn't look right. There are a few isolated spots I love; I discovered the Black Velvet Nasturtium ( Botanical Interests seeds ) are starting to bloom ! They are a very beautiful old fashioned looking red color. Not as dark as I thought they would be, but a nice change after a few years of orange and peach nasturtium. I'll have to beg my son to take more photos if there is a cool evening next week. Maybe by then there will be a new thread and the photo problem fixed, we hope.
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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Two random blooms today.

Moonlight in Paris:

Jude:

Spotted bee balm + Agastache

Purple coneflower

Rudbeckia
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berrypiez6b
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Magpie, great photos again, where do you get seeds for your beautiful flowers ? I never heard of spotted bee balm, it's really cool.

I miss Jude the Obscure, one of the best my little garden ever had.
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Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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I buy my seeds from:

1) Botanical Interests, occasionally from their website but mostly from my local nursery.

2) Baker Creek Seeds, I like them for carrying some more unusual varieties of flowers and veggies. Most expensive one of the three.

3) Lake Valley Seed, which I also get from the local nursery.
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berrypiez6b
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Thanks Magpie, I'm sorry to ask you to use your hands to type. Do you have the voice activated typing ? ( don't answer )

Love the first two seed companies, I've made them rich. Not familiar with Lake Valley, will look it up.

I just spent way too long looking , my eyes are crossed . Found your gorgeous Rudbeckia

at Select Seeds. I really like their Mt Fuji Morning Glory.
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KittyNYz6
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I am stumped at 2 rose leaf issues. Help?

1. One person has curled down rose leaves in CA bay areaBay Area, zone 9. . What is the problem why the leaf curls down? Needs water-wilting? Virus, insect, fungus? Too much water?

Photo curled down leaves

2. Another person has curled down leaves in Florida? What are all the possibilities to cause Florida curled down leaves?

@User

Do you know the above answers?

Anyone have answers?
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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Berry pie, I love that Morning Glory ! What a unique color. I will check it out. A few years ago I ordered a couple of Japanese morninglories

I will try to find them.

I have gotten good seeds from

Eden Brothers

Johnny's

Select seed
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berrypiez6b
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Eden ? have not heard of them. Thanks Kristine !
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berrypiez6b
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Kitty6aNY When my William Shakespeare 2000 was wilted from the heat, the buds hung down also. I don't know what to guess, I'm sorry you have this happening.

One thing I read, it might have been a Heirloom Roses email , gave information that yellowing soft leaves means too much water, crispy leaves means not enough water. But your leaves are still green - hope it's solved soon to ease your concern.
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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Berrypie I should have said Eden Brothers .

Check this out
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berrypiez6b
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Hey, I was just prepared to be mad at the photo gitch but it's fixed, I think...

Kristine Wouldn't that Morning Glory be splendid climbing in a yard some distance away from pink , white, or lavender roses ? I read it makes a tangled mess if Morning Glories get into the roses - that kind of gardening challenge we don't need .

I'm not sure where to put a Morning Glory next time. My Grandpa Ott seed didn't grow where it was planted, but the neighbor ended up with Grandpa in the pot with a Teddy Bear Sunflower I gave her. That same year I planted Flying Saucers, they never germinated. It's so expensive and frustrating, still I do this seed craziness every year. My kind of fun and excitement !
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berrypiez6b
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Testing 1 2 3 ;

Do I really need more seeds?

Cherelle Nasturtium ; those seeds I want for sure- would be a beautiful garnish.

Procut White Nite Sunflower.

Chocolate Soldier Columbine.

Bring on the photos Diane.
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KittyNYz6
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Berrypie, Its not my leaves curling down. Just researching for oeople. Need to undetstand it. Thank you.
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berrypiez6b
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Kitty6aNY Oh, thank Heaven !
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susan9santabarbara
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I just clicked on all 3 of Berry's photos, and they were fine. No freeze.
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Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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I found a photo of my phaecelia from this year, that "Bee's Friend" plant we were talking about.
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berrypiez6b
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Cool plant Magpie, I think maybe I saw a Bees Friend in someone's yard before .Looks too big for my garden though. I have to force myself to dig up more sod.
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Trish - I thought the flowers were too small to be an aster (3/4")...but I'm sure you're right. Thanks! Oh thanks, about my roses!! Both of these survived my hideous rose season from last year. Thankfully. :) :)

Berrypie - thanks! :) :) Charles DeGaulle had the best fragrance today (29C/84F)

Kitty - what is the fragrance strength like on you Eglantyne? If there's no fragrance now (heat), did it ever have a great fragrance? Diane, please chime in on this. I may have a chance to get it next year. :) :) Thanks, Kitty...Wonky Jacques Cartier is still wonky...but blooming its heart out. Oh, I'm really loving Pink Promise. :) :) Fish fertilizer is great. Last week I used fish fert and worm leachate. :) This week, it's just going to be MiracleGro (lightly).

Kristine - Thank you!!! :) :) Yeah, big blousy blooms on Memorial Day. :) :) Yeah, I can imagine yours can get quite large as mine is 3 foot in a pot. Yeah, she's very social too, isn't she? So, I'm sure she would love some type of school. How's her potty training going? This could be a good incentive. :) I can't believe your temp is 108F!!! And no air conditioning!!!!!!!!! Horrible...I really, really hope you get some cool weather soon...with some rain too. Get out!!!! You're at 108F and you have roses blooming like that?!!! They're sooo beautiful! Your The Faun is incredible!!! Oh, I'm so proud of you!!! :) :)

Berrypie - I love that muscari! I've never ordered it because it's so tiny (like 4 inches...is it?). Your Serpentine columbine looks like a crown! I had no idea that columbine could look like that!! So cool!!

AshleyFl - do you think your mystery rose could be an Austin...like Benjamin Britten? Yours is really beautiful and deserves a name. :) LOL about the black edge...kind of similar to my shovels and pails in photos. :) That grasshopper is insanely beautiful and hideous at the same time. It is the best picture of a grasshopper that I have ever seen....you should frame that!! Or enter it in a photography contest!

Kitty - That is one weird reason for a rose to die. LOL Hit by a door. :) You sure are learning about what works for you. No grafts. (Seinfeld...no grafts for you!) Yes, I'm sure the fragrance will be gone when your guests come...or else you can have a fun game of "What's that Smell?" :)

Susan - Yeah, it must be Charles de Gaulle...and the fragrance is fabulous...best in the garden in the heat. I hear you, I had Babs before (one short summer and then it died when my daughter left the garage door open in winter) and I loved it. I would love to get it again. :) Yes, it's a tie...we won't ask you to list your top 5 roses based on your 25 songs on your all time top 10 fave list. :) :)

Magpie - your MiP is such a pretty peach shade...that is sure a variable rose for color. I love your coneflowers and wish I could grow them. :) :) Your bee balm is so unusual...love it!

Kitty - I found this on my notes from Straw: If the leaves curl down, then there's been too much fertilizer applied. So, I'm guessing more water would help flush the fertilizer out. Hopefully that helps. :)

Diane - finally I can click on pictures. But, why don't we start a new one tomorrow? ANYONE WHO WANTS TO START THE NEW SUMMER THREAD...FEEL FREE. :) :) OTHERWISE, I'LL START IT ON FRIDAY. :) :) :) No worries, either way.

Went for a brain MRI yesterday at 10 p.m....what a goofy time to have one scheduled. Just checking more on my vertigo...which has come back a little bit. It's taken nearly a year to get this appointment. LOL
KittyNYz6
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Carol, Eglantyne’s blooms are fabulous and fragrance is divine! Strong-yummy rosy. You are doung well w/ fertilizers. Did I say it smells like fish outside in my gardens, now? What a fragrance! Difficult to say no grafts-I have some more DA grafts, but not planning in them in the future. Eglantyne is a graft. I just will take extra special care of them to make it through winter.

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berrypiez6b
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rosecanadian - how could they make you wait a year - so much for preventative medicine. We all pray your test has encouraging results.

Isn't it ironic we perfume our lovely rose gardens with fish fragrance.

While it's 104 degrees for a few more days , I'm taking a break from yardwork. Seed shopping has been eye opening, there are so many beautiful plants to chose from. It's going to take some extreme self control, the expense adds up quick.

More rose friend possibilities for next year .
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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113-114 expected today.

For dinner last night we had choc shakes from DQ.

Im enjoying the cool 2 hours in the morning to water.

I have to sing the praises of Charles De Gaulle. In the heat it has put out 4 perfect buds of the prettiest lavender color.

Such a superior rose compared to Violets Pride.

Surprisingly, nothing looks horrible in this nasty heat, well except me lol.

Berrypie, I still have morninglories coming up in all kinds of random places. I planted a couple of specialty MG and they never reseeded
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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oh man Kristine LeGault choc shakes from DQ... love them! lol... Now I need to get a creme filled donut and wash it down with a milk shake..lol... :-) And WOW 113-114.... :-O

westes Zone 9b California SF Bay answered you about curling leaves in that other thread Kitty6aNY..

Wonderful photos everyone!
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berrypiez6b
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jim1961 I still haven't gotten to the Gross donut shop to get my bavarian bismark.

Photo from their counter. Gross is the real family name of the local donut shop in Post Falls. They open at 4 am and always sell out their blueberry buttermilk, I never got close to trying it yet. How can I bribe them to save one for me ? I want it on ice.

Man o man Kristine, we are going to freeze when the daytimes get back down into the 80s.
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KittyNYz6
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Oh, what lovely photos everyone. So much fun reading everyone’s posts!! Seeds for next year sounds winderful!

Kristine, Thank you. Ill check Burlington for The Fawn-Yipee!!! She is beautiful in your garden! 114F-UNREAL! This global wRming is TOO MUCH!!!! May I join you for chocolate icecream milshakes? Oh, oh oh-I have choc Hagen Das icecream-Im going to have some!!!!!!!! As soon as Im done posting!!!!!!

Jim, Thank you. The curly leaf phenoma is interesting; however, I think it may be nutrient deficiencey. Cupping downward leaves can be magnesium and calcium deficiency. A balanced fertilizer for roses and healthy living soil for roses can correct leaves cupped downward.

Berrypie, My fav is your chocolate soldier columbine! I have chocolate mint! Love these delicious olants! And aid like some donuts!

Magpie, Love your colorful Moonlight in Paris! And other roses & flowers!
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KittyNYz6
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New blooms today…, loving it! Strolling….

Moonlight in Paris! Best photo ever!

Wedding Bells Eleganza

Yummy! Amazing Grace-so perfumed!!!

Moonlight Magic, Looks like the Moon-string fragrance!

Maypop

Mordens Blush

Lil Kim ROS

Queen Elizabeth

Pomponella

Mike

Granny Smith Apples (I have 100 this year & squirrel havent eaten them, yet!)

Hollyhock

Beverly’s flush

OLadyoGuadelupe

Limelight Hydrangea Tree

Brother Cadfael

Earth Angel

Heritage-Thank you-Magpie. I really love her-she blooms all the time & strong glossy leaves!

Eglantyne, for Carol! She keeps on blooming in the heat! Fabulous!

Parade Day-for Carol! Very intense color in the heat!

Sweet Drift, blooms in big flush- all spring-summer- never stopped-huge. Greatt for hill cover!!!

Peach Drift, 2nd flush
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berrypiez6b
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Thats a fortune worth - good thing you can eat one of them to pay for the rest.

LOOOVE that hollyhock !
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Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
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Kitty, you are having quite the flush of blooms! The curled down leaves reminds me that I have one rose, Golden Celebration, with curled down leaves. I just went outside and got a shot of what I am talking about. Not all its leaves always look like this, but it does seem like it is typical of this particular rose because they seem healthy otherwise.
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Diane Brakefield
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I've grown Golden Celebration for 16 years, and never seen curled down leaves on this rose. I wouldn't worry about it, but I don't think it's typical for Golden Celebration. Diane
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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Kitty, what a bounty of beauty

I need a Little Kim Rose of Sharon and I got on the wait list for Our Lady of Guadalupe .
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KittyNYz6
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@Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal Thank you regarding my roses. On G Celebration-Same problem-cupped down leaves. How is your soil? And do you regularly fertilize w/ a standard rose balanced fertilizer? It may need a balanced rose fertilizer w/ magnesium & calcium in it, which if deficient of these nutrients can cause leaves to cup downward. I recommend a normal rose fertilizer which has magnesium & calcium balanced already in it. (Since you have this oroblem ongoing-it must be nutrient deficient needing mag. & calcium.

Also,properly aged cow manure has magnesium & calcium in it and it will amend your soil ( use as top dressing on soil-do not let it touch rose roots or may burn) to better make the nutrients your rose needs readily available in the soil to feed on. Usually people need to both amend their soil and fertilize regularly to fix this problem. A rose needs good heakthy living soil and fertilizer to feed the rose, both, to stay healthy, grow vigorously and bloom profusely!

BTW, I am studying horticulture now…. taking classes and research. Planning on becoming rose consultan….. along w/ my B&B. Much to do….. but who doesnt love reading about roses!!!

Kristine, Berrypie, Thank you…. my roses are really starting to bloom again…. it’s very colorfulin the gardens today!

Kristine, Congrats on being on the wait list for OLOG! Lil Kim ROS is a lovely colorful SM bush-next to my roses! My fav ROS is Ruffled Satin, though! Love those ruffled bell shaped blooms. Very cool we can have this type of hybiscus in colder climates!
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Hi everyone, join us all in the new Summer thread https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6290870/roses-love-sunshine-seasonal-thread

Kitty - Ooooh!!! I told myself I wouldn't get any more roses from the really expensive place in B.C....but....hello Eglantyne!! :) :) And it blooms enough? Yes, I guess you could call your garden an Under the Sea themed garden...based on the fishy smell. :) By the way....how is your romance going?? You don't have to answer if you don't want. :) :)

Berrypie - Yes, I put stinky fish fertilizer on today. LOL And I always end up splashing fish water all over my legs. We were talking about perfumes earlier. LOL Eau du Stinky Fish. BerryPie, can you send me any donut on the 2nd shelf from the top on the right? I looooove those!!! :)

Kristine - no way!! 114!!! And you don't have an airconditioner??? !!!! Holy crap! Yes, I think DQ must be raking in the money. Chocolate shakes sound perfect for dinner. I had popcorn. :) We're eating the food of champions! Yes, I so agree with you about CdG...and the fragrance is amazing!!

Kitty - Oh, I'm so glad you have choc Hagen Das ice cream in the freezer!! Go Kitty Go!!! Oh, those pictures!!! I started writing comments about everyone of them, because they're all so gorgeous...then I thought...there's too many comments. And then I thought...what the heck. :) :) Your Amazing Grace has so many petals!!! That color on your MM!!! How big is your Maypop bloom? It's so alien like in a beautiful way. Your Morden Blush looks like an OGR ... so gorgeous!! Lil Kim has such shocking color contrasts. :) QE is symmetrical and looks even more beautiful! Pomp and Mike have so many blooms. Over 100 apples? Can I see pies in your future? :) :) Your Hollyhocks make me so envious. :) :) Bro Cad has that wonderful overlapping of the petals. Your Hydrangea are so lovely!! Makes me want to grow them. Beverly is perfection. Eglantyne...oh, thine name is beauty. Parade Day is screaming out its colors...so vivid! :) :) Thank you for all of those pics. I've been too hot and lazy to bother lately. :) Kitty - a rose consultant!!! You always surprise me with how much you do...you are our energizer bunny...studying...why not. :) :)
KittyNYz6
last year
Fabulous news: My Eden CL is starting buds blooming 2nd flush! She’s on 3rd year & I never had a 2nd flush in her before! I saw 2 buds opening this evening….I see buds are sprinkled around her ready to open-this is soooooo exciting!
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berrypiez6b
last year
That's so great Kitty about your Eden - that will multiply romance in the rose garden.

The rose nursery in Spokane has guest speakers, they make BIG money . That could finance your garden !

I'd sure love for you to consult me on my garden. I insult it and owe it an apology. A strong hundred degree wind is blowing outside, I don't know if I've ever felt anything like it. My brave plants are doing their best to withstand the blasting furnace. I can't imagine being in that blazing sun day after day , and now with brutal wind. I should go out and water again.

Found another Pansy seed variety I want, Frizzle Sizzle Orange. It would really be sizzling today.
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KittyNYz6
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Berrypie, Thank you! You’re going to have some amazing pansy seeds! I added to the ”2022 My Old Garden Roses,” thread and I have a question for you… list your OGRs? & others? And I posted OGR photos… I think you have some gorgeous roses!!! You are very talented! Those winds don’t sound fun. I’m so glad our roses are vary strong! I have the most freezing winds in wibter & my roses survived! Thank you to my Roses! Love to see photos of yours?

Oh, TODAY WAS MY BIRTHDAY!

I had Hagen Das chocolate ice cream and ordered Nahema Rose CL from A Revetence for Roses and a Rose book on pathology and pests. Fun, fun!

Nahema CL
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User
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Happy Birthday Kitty!!!
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berrypiez6b
last year
Nahema, WOW Kitty you chose a spectacular gift ! Looks like a wonderful book too.

You have an astounding collection of roses, and soon with Nahema as the icing on the cake , your future clients will be impressed by your credentials . I did see your latest Old Garden Roses eye popping photos. Benny Lopez is one decadent guy.

I once was talking to the host of the local flower club and mentioned I could lecture on " Roses - Everything Not To Do " because I've fumbled my way through making one mistake after another. I wasn't serious but they asked me when I wanted to speak.

You will be an enormous help as a consultant, it's much needed.

I'm wilted after today, cool air has begun to come in the window just in time for bed.

I hope this was a beautiful memorable day for you. Sweet Dreams.
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seasiderooftop
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@KittyNYz6, Happy Birthday!

And congratulations on getting Nahema! I can't add any climbers here but if I could add only one Nahema would be it. I smelled her in a rose garden and that scent is everything.

I am sure she will be a wonderful addition to your beautiful garden!

@Kristine LeGault 8a pnw, I'm so surprised (but very glad) to hear CdG is doing well for you in the heat. Mine is doing terrible, worst in the garden here this summer. Your comment does make me wonder if I just ended up with a particularly weak one. Nice to know he can do better than this! Also love the colors of your Hot Cocoa and Peach Swirl!

@Diane Brakefield , those pictures of all the roses in the rounded bed definitely had my head spinning! WOW. Absolutely gorgeous garden, your roses look flawless!

@rosecanadian Your roses are looking amazing! I had never seen Rosemary Harkness, what a beautiful color!

@Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) Jude the Obscure looks lovely! Supposedly he's one of the best smelling Austins. How is the scent for you?

@User What a beautiful grasshopper! The ones we get out here have very drab colors. This one looks so exotic! I love it!
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rosecanadian
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Kitty - awesome!! And you love your Eden so much...this is great news!!

Berrypie - I love that orange pansy...it looks like you took a fine black marker and drew the lines. Cool! Oh, my goodness...that is a real wind...not just a blustery wind, but a serious one. Yes, they'll lose water faster through transpiration with that hot wind. Watering is a good idea.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR KITTY!!! Chocolate Haagan Daz icecream...what a great birthday treat...I don't really love ice cream...but I love that delicious brand...especially chocolate!! Another rose is a great gift for yourself!! :) :) And what a good book since you've been wondering about diagnosing rose leaf problems and it'll be good for the course you're taking. Anything you feel like sharing that you learn...we'd love to hear.

Berrypie - so did you give the talk? We have all learned soooo much about what not to do. :) :)

Seaside - and RH has a really good fruity fragrance...the best fruity fragrance I've ever smelled.
KittyNYz6
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Good Morning, Thank you! Ashley, Berrypie, Carol, Seaside! It was a happy birthday!

Lovely posts everyone! I will comment later…Berry, you’d make a great lecturer of roses & we all have been there-tons mistakes w/roses-long lists of what not to do! Ha, Ha. Like si didnt even dead head my first roses for 6 months until I learned-no blooms! Lol!

I have guests B&B coming today… have to clean house now…. Gardner coming to mow…. Happy Gardening!

I broken off accidentslly a 5 ft cane from Moonlight magic w/ tons buds on it. So I made bouquet & buds are opening. on my bed stand.

Yummy potent scent.
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Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
@seasiderooftop The spring flush smelled nice but not amazing, but this single flower that's just bloomed smells really lovely. It's a sweeter kind of smell.
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Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
last year
Ahhh thanks Diane and Kitty! You have just made me realize that my Golden Celebration might be deficient in a nutrient and probably calcium. It was planted side-by-side with Darcey Bussell by the company we hired to replace all the back lawn with a drip system for plants. I had assumed that both were on Dr Huey rootstock, since they came from local nursery stock. If both on Dr. Huey, both should be able to take up nutrients from the soil in the same way BUT if GC is actually on its own roots, that could explain why Darcey Bussell blooms a lot more (she could also be on own roots but might be better at getting the calcium/ nutrients she needs from that spot). With time GC has bloomed less and less too. I give both GC and DB same treatment of Osmocote Plus (which after looking at the package in the garage I realize has no calcium) dug into the soil near the drippers in January when they get pruned in SoCal along with some compost mulch and a couple times in the summer some Miracle Gro, but they are competing with the roots of a nearby Sycamore so that could explain why they might need more that that. I will give them both a tablespoon of Pickle Crisp granules (Calcium chloride) dissolved into a gallon of water to give a quick Calcium boost. I have found that you cannot mix Pickle Crisp with fertilizer or it sometimes clumps and does not dissolve. I normally just use it for my potted gardenias, since they always seem to get the classic curled new leaves from calcium deficiency. Plus I have it around for making pickles. I didn’t make any last year, but maybe this year if I see nice cukes at the farmers market.
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Kitty - that's a wonderful instant bouquet! I had never heard of this rose before...I really love yours!! Have a fun time with your new guests!

Stephanie - good thinking...calcium in probably low...just like you thought. :)
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
last year
Kitty I answered you about curled leaves in the new seasonal thread.. "Roses Love Sunshine Seasonal Thread"
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KittyNYz6
last year
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@Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal

I would recommend a few tips for best results in remedying your curled leaf issue. To onow what is precisely the oroblem w/ your soil it is best to have a progrssional soil test. You can give a sample of your soil to an argriculture extension near you to do the test. it is recommended to test soil teice a year. They will recommend what to add to your soil.

Adding calcium chlorode, from your pickle crisp may or may not help. And I caution adding it from your ”pickle crisp,” because you dont know the amount of calcium to add to the soil. Fertilizers have a smaller amount , ounces they add to rodes soil. Over fertilizing of calcium on roses will also inhibit absorption by rose roots of needed nutrients in the soil.

I always recommend using a balanced rose fertilizer to correct an issue that is measired correctly for you for roses.

Osmocote is a slow release fertilizer that may feed your roses eventually when it‘s nutients works its way through soil. Since Osmocote can take a long time to feed roses, you can supplinent Osmocote by using other rose balanced fertilizers after applying Osmocote. Some rose fertilizers release sooner nutrients to your roses. Adding a ”full balanced fertilizer,” may fix most nutrient deficiencies.”

I use Espoma Organic Rose Tone I order on Amazon delivered in a few days. , which Id tecommend to you. It has bone meal w/ calcium for your roses ( it correct measured amounts.) Rose tone has NPK, poultry meal, bone neal, alfalfa, magnesium. It smells like real food from real organic ingredients. Work it into soil-water well.

Heirloom Roses, HR suggests Boost & Bloom fertilizer every 4 weeks. Also, HR Founders Fish Fertilizer monthly. You can add other fish fertilizers anytime, but read label directions of the container as some have really high Nitrogen & little phosphate/potash.

Adding Bone meal 1/2 cup to your soil is a recommended average amount to boast calcium, as an alternative. Often in planting roses, I recommend 1/2 cup bone meal to each rose, along w/other soil amendments.

I am concerned the tree roots are inhibiting your rose roots from obtaining nutition from the soil. If these large tree roots are sharing a space w/ the rose roots you may wish to transplant the rose to a new location and give it balanced living soil & ferttilizer

. An easy way to have a rose grow well is to transplant it ito a pot w/ rich bskanced potted soil & fertilize. (Potted roses do well w/ liquid fertilizers such as fish ( not granules dissolved in water.) Granule fertilizers can burn roots of transolanted roses & in pots & cause salt build up making it difficult for roses roots to absorb nutrients.

If you already added the tablesppon… no worries. Just water it a lot in case it’s a little much. Transolanting the rose to a new soil & location is another option.

Anyway, some food for thought. And making pickles sounds yummy!!!
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KittyNYz6
last year
Carol & Jim, Thank you! Fun w/ bouquets lately. I read 1/2 the ”Tose Doctor,” book today…. tons learned. I’ll share on carol’s new thread as time unfolds.
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KittyNYz6
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@rosecanadian I can’t find your new Summer thread. Help? UPDATE: Found it, Lol! Thank you! Thank you for this wonderful old thread-it was a wonderful spring/summer 2022, but now enjoying your new thread- “Roses Love Sunshine Seasonal Thread,” as we enter August for finsl summer fun!
rosecanadian
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last year
Kitty - seems like you found the new thread. :) And, yes, I'd love to learn more. :)

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