Damasks, Portlands/Damask Perpetuals Share 2022
While I await the unfurling of more Gallicas to share on Melissa’s thread, I thought I’d start a Damask, etc. thread. Please jump in! I’d love to see everyone’s photos of these plentiful, petalful, positively decadent OGRs. Be still our hearts! Carol
‘Botzaris‘ (Damask) accompanied by ‘Konigen von Danemark’ (Alba with a Damask personality).
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last yearlast modified: last year@Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) Here’s a shot of a pink Indigo bloom on a traveling upshoot in a drier year. My Indigo lives Portland where most everything turns quite purple due to slightly acid soil and cool, cloudy springtimes.
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Comments (15)I've been away from the computer; it's so nice to see all the responses. I'm wondering if we are all talking about the same thing. The leaves on my Marbree and Rose du Roi turned completely black. Starts off as black dots, as if made by a black sharpie. No yellowing at all, so doesn't look much like regular blackspot to me. They are towards the front of the bed and looked really horrible. I can't imagine these leaves are helping the plant at all. I may spray them next year, though I've heard that doesn't help, as Kaye wrote. There's another cruddy look that looks a bit more like "normal" bs that some roses get towards fall, more of a brown color, but not much yellow, where the leaves from a distance look darker, like Yorkrose's photo. I don't find this too bothersome....See MoreWhat Will Make My Damasks Bloom?
Comments (9)Lindsey, I think they just take a little longer getting established. At least most of the ones i have. They might be getting too much nitrogen if they are growing lanky. I'm sure mine get too much nitrogen also. I think all of my damasks will be 3 yrs old this coming spring. Kaznalik and ispahan seem to be the taller ones, although gloire de guilains were small for so long and have finally caught up this year. mme. hardy just this year decided she was going to grow taller, although still pretty tiny. the autumn damasks aren't blooming in the autumn but they are getting larger. Hebe's lips are still rather sparse but taller and very lanky. Mine are all own root. Perhaps that is why they don't seem to be as popular as other classes of roses. I have a few gallicas that seem to grow the same way, but i have other gallicas that are more vigorous. albas are a mixed bag here, pompom blanc parfaits outgrow all roses on the place whereas the great maiden's blushes, which i now think are felicite parmentiers, are super slow but have finally got in gear a little this year. Perhaps some roses you just have to give 5 yrs instead of the usual 3 before you decide if you really like them or not. I commented on another thread that my camieuxs were slow growing, sparse and non-descript and was pounced on by other posters that they were wonderful and far from nondescript, so i assume they just take awhile to get established....See MorePortland and Damask roses
Comments (15)Since we're both in zone 4 (albeit opposite sides of the country), I can tell you that damasks and portlands do well here. There is minimal winterkill in a typical winter, which is usually just some light pruning come spring. For repeat bloom, the best for me is Marchesa Boccella (some say it is the same rose as Jacques Cartier), followed by Rose de Rescht, Yolande d'Aragon and Portland from Glendora (also called Johasine Hanet). All are deliciously fragrant. For once-blooming damasks, my favorites are Ispahan, La Ville de Bruxelles and Leda. Ispahan does indeed have the longest bloom time and starts blooming later than my other old roses. I grow Autumn Damask, which is supposed to repeat bloom, but after 4 years it still hasn't re-bloomed for me. I wonder if it still isn't mature, or if my growing season is too short to reap the benefit of rebloom. I love these reliable roses and think you will too. I hope you enjoy the following photos on this cold winter day. Celeste MARCHESA BOCCELLA..... ROSE DE RESCHT..... YOLANDE D'ARAGON.... LA VILLE DE BRUXELLES....SEPAL ARE LOVELY TOO LEDA.... ISPAHAN.... PORTLAND FROM GLENDORA......See MoreAlba, Damask, Moss, Centifolia Photo Share, Anyone?
Comments (66)Wow! I stepped away from this thread for a few hours, and when I came back, there was a string of beautiful new photos! Paul, thank you for all the photos! Tour de Malakoff and Madame Hardy are two of the loveliest old roses, and each one is surely a contender for best in class. Tour de Malakoff may be my favorite Centifolia. There's a photo in one of Peter Beale's books which captures Tour de Malakoff, William Lobb and apricot tulips all tangled together. That one photo of violet-mauve-grey TdM ignited love at first sight many years ago. It still strikes me as odd that most people I meet have never heard of TdM...or so many other classic old roses. Even Madame Hardy, whose blooms are about as close to perfection as any white rose ever comes. Your Marbree seedling is both fascinating and completely charming! Its shade of pink falls into that silvery-lavender range that inspires me to believe in fairies, and the speckling just adds to the illusion, as if the fairies gave the petals a good dusting before flying off to tend other flowers, I wish ALL your roses were in commerce! How can this rose NOT be in gardens everywhere? I love the mossiness of "Nutshop" and would be thrilled if you get a chance to snap a picture of an open bloom! If speckled, silvery pink roses are gifted to us by fairies, surely Moss roses are where fairies reside when they are at rest. Carol One of my daughter's fairy houses made from an overturned clay pot:...See Moreportlandmysteryrose
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last year@portlandmysteryrose Well I'm prepared to be surprised, but I'm having a hard time imagining this bud eventually opening up into any color resembling what "Indigo" should be. Obviously it's not a pristine bud but that's the only one I've got right now:
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Madame Hardy before the endless rains of the last week and a half melted all her blooms. It would have been a spectacular flush, but the blooms just melt under all this rain. At least she still looks good at a distance!
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last yearI just added some Autumn Damask roses to the garden this year. Here are some pictures of the first bloom.
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last yearlast modified: last yearRose de Rescht still offering blooms but winding down its spring flush. The spent petals usually drop cleanly. If they don’t drop on their own, I just brush the along the top of the foliage and flowers. The blooms on my RdR are pretty darn rain resistant, as @librarian_gardner_8b_pnw and @oursteelers 8B PNW noted on their plants. Pardon the dead twigs on the variegated hydrangea. I need to wade into the bed and remove those!
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last yearWhite Jacques Cartier, vaguely remembering his original color:
Boufarik, still blooming:
Comte de Chambord, second flush:
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last yearUpdate my Ispahan. About 85% flowers are now in bloom. Trained horizontally, it has at least 5 times as many blooms as last year.
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last yearThe last blooms of Sidonie. So I guess it bloomed continuously for about 3 weeks. It will bloom again in fall, so you guys have all summer as a break from my bombardment of Sidonie photos lol.
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last yearWell, Madame Hardy is a workhorse. Her delicate blooms kept melting to brown mush in the record setting rains we had, but she sets so many blooms that from a distance, she still looked lovely.
Up close you can see the rain damage. I haven't had time to deadhead!
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last year@portlandmysteryrose Yes, agree! I never look for continuous bloomers. Everything takes turns with their time to shine, and I prefer it that way.
@librarian_gardner_8b_pnw I also am caring for a clover patch, it's been claiming more and more of the front yard each year. My neighbor is extremely passive aggressive about it 🙄 But the bees and bunnies adore it so 🤷🏽♀️ sorry not sorry.
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last yearlast modified: last year@librarian_gardner_8b_pnw, your garden looks fantastic! It is great fun to see a shot of the fence and pergola area. So beautiful! A lovely composition and the OMG size of those foxgloves….
Our poor white OGR fluffs did not like this spring, but they are troopers. Your MH looks grand from across the frame, and I’ll bet she is still offering some buds and gorgeous fresh blooms in the mix. I pulled all the brown off Botzaris and Madame Plantier. MP gave me a couple of fresh white fluffs and has a few unspoiled buds. Botzaris is still trying to show he’s the biggest post downpour fluff in the garden! He has opening buds and new blooms. The sun is helping immensely!
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last yearLa Ville de Bruxelles working hard to prove she is still the Queen of Perfect Form, even after all the rain!
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last yearlast modified: last yearIt does seem like summer has arrived for everyone. Hopefully we all get just the weather to enjoy it gardens.
Magpie, I love your cover patch. Passive aggressive neighbors and their boring, water hog lawns can mind their own business 😁 our tiny front lawn is under trees and doesn't get clover but it does get overgrown with beautiful, soft, fluffy moss in the winter. Another interloper we're happy with. Biodiversity and gardening for microclimate success! Your bunny picture is just perfect.
Beautiful photos Portland Carol! I think this might be my favorite class of roses! I have quite a few babies that I'll enjoy seeing develop in the future.
And for a modern rose that's not a damask perpetual but reminds me of one in growth form (lanky, self pegging) and bloom form and fragrance... Gabriel Oak.
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