Small tree/large shrub ID please

thefof Zone 8/9 UK

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In a Public Garden, in Penzance, Cornwall.

Beautiful bark.

TIA

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iochroma

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That does sound like a typo, or a misinterpretation of the concept of selfpollenation.

Thanks for the offer; I have ordered some.

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b
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Looks like a macadamia tree...?
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thefof Zone 8/9 UK
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Definately not a Macadamia.

I saw them in Aus. Flowers very different and leaves not as long as these.
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Wow, thanks for the recommendations to all of you. I do like the idea of Ribes, it has flowers similar to fuschia and the birds will love it. Many of your other recommendations I planted at my parents' home during the last few years, so I can easily make cuttings. I might have to grow some of those full sun species in pots up on our balcony where some spots get full sun year round. Carpenteria may be nice, too. Some white to brighten up the shady spot. Calycanthus is a nice flower morphology, and I love the fragrance of it. Yerba Buena would be a nice groundcover under the trees by the street, and again, I like that it has fragrance. It will like the fog in Summer, too. Phacelia campanularia is one of my favorite flowers, the blue color is amazing. I only worry about the kids in the neighborhood touching it, it gave me a pretty bad dematitis a few months ago when I collected seeds from them. I've been trying to estimate how much sun that area will get in the peak of summer, in June. I think one strip will be filtered/dappled shade, and half of one will be in direct sunlight for a few hours when the sun is highest in the sky. The Las Pilitas site is basically my encyclopedia for getting info about plants, especially their hummingbird and butterfly plant lists. That, google image searches and the online Jepson manual. And even though they aren't natives, I've always wanted to grow Hellebores, so maybe that will go in somewhere too. Thanks again, and happy gardening.
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Not redbud or dogwood as branching (dogwood) and leaf shape (redbud) aren't right. Either plant might work in the same way, however. The area looks like an above average rainfall area with a temperate climate, probably zone 6-8. Where did you find the photo?
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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Perhaps a Grevillea? There are a zillion species but I am only familiar with a tiny handful.
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iochroma
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At first I thought it might be Embothrium - a Protea-family tree from Chile - but the leaves are all wrong.

If I were to hazzard a SWAG it would be a Banksia.

Also: I dont seem to be able to respond on the other red flowered shrub page - it is a Cestrum, probably C. ‘Newellii’.
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iochroma
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Ah, Knightia excelsa from NZ.
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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b
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The flowers are somewhat different, but the rest looks very similar to my macadamia tree - is it related?
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iochroma
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Carol, they are related plants in the Protea family.
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macranthos
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How have I studied Proteaceae for years but never seen a Knightia excelsa? It’s lovely! How cold is Cornwall? Grab some seeds next time you’re there thefof!
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thefof Zone 8/9 UK
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Thanks, one and all, especially iochroma. You hit it. Nice one.

Carol. Further research does show that it is more similar to Macadamia than I thought/remembered. All Macadamia I saw in Australia were cultivated, so overall appearance did throw me.

macranthos. The garden where this is, Morrab Gardens, is full of allsorts of plants, with many from Aus/NZ, and other places, eg Wollemia nobilis, Grevillias , Phyllocladus, Puyas, and a 30'+ Metasequoia.

I pop down there every few months, and ALWAYS spot something I hadn't seen before.

They did attempt, at one point, a couple of Banksia, but they expired. I suspect that they suffered from phosphorus toxidity. A pity as I love the Banksias.

Temperatures, on average, are lows of 4C (39F), but -4C has been recorded. Many of their plants would NOT like that temperature, but being only 150m from the sea they probably wouldn't get that low.
macranthos
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Ok, so they are squarely USDA Zone 9… pity. It would have been fun to grow that one. thanks for posting it!
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iochroma
last year
Thanks thefof

Macranthos: where do you garden? Do you grow other Protea-family plants?

I will say I have never seen Knightia in North America, but I must have seen in NZ and it just didn’t stick to any of my neurons.

It should grow well here in San Francisco, so now I have to find some seed...
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iochroma

As I said, I do pop down there quite often, as it is <20 miles away, and will check to see if it fruits.

If it does, I'll harvest some and message you.

I'm not sure if they are self fertile. Acording to Flower biology in New Zealand they are possibly self pollinating, in addition to "the birds and the bees".

The Rewarewa of the Tangihua Ranges however states "The complicated flower structure is is to prevent cross pollination and has adapted to bird pollination." I'm not sure quite what he means by "cross pollination" as it is monotypic and suspect he meant "self pollination"
thefof Zone 8/9 UK
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For what it's worth, an NZ seller is offering Seeds on EBay.

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