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Not what I ordered

last year

While it is a nice rose, it isn't what I ordered. I got it last year and these are the first blooms. I ordered a once blooming rose, so I expect this to be an once blooming rose as well. See comments for pictures. Anyone have an idea on what it may be?
Thank you in advance

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last year

The problem with 'Variegata di Bologna' is that it reverts to plain pink often. I have a bush of it that is now 90% plain pink. The striped sport is very unstable.

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Brandon Garner
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last year
Brandon Garner
Original Author
last year
The outer petals seem to reflex backwards as well
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
Did you send a picture to the seller and see if they can identify it?

It is really a lovely rose.
Brandon Garner thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
Alana8aSC
last year
What did you order and where did you order from? It could be a rose that was next to yours alphabetically.
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oursteelers 8B PNW
last year
I also think it’s a really pretty rose and if it s fragrant I migh need to look into it!
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Brandon Garner
Original Author
last year
@Kristine LeGault 8a pnw

@Alana8aSC

I was planning on contacting the seller on monday. it was supposed to be Variegata di Bologna, which it clearly is not
bart bart
last year
Whatever it is, it's beautiful.

I have a similar problem-I ordered a rose that was supposed to be Pacific Dream, but they sent me a pale pink one that might be some OGR. I wrote to the seller about the problem but they have not responded. I'll try phoning them...
Brandon Garner thanked bart bart
seasiderooftop
last year
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I understand your frustration, @Brandon Garner

I wonder if stripey-ness is always stable in roses.

I have the same problem with a rose I ordered this year from Greece, Avramis' Pink Ekrixis. I'm pretty sure they sent the right rose, ummm ...except it doesn't have stripes! I do get a single stripe per flower every now and then, but nothing like the beautiful stripey, mottled design on the seller's pictures.

Expectation vs reality:

I also wonder if soil, temperature etc can affect whether stripes are expressed.
Brandon Garner thanked seasiderooftop
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
Seaside, temps/weather conditions can indeed influence things like that.
Brandon Garner thanked Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
berrypiez6b
last year
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It's SO disappointing to get the wrong rose, although you may have actually gotten a desirable rose by mistake, I hope it will grow on you.

Variegatta di Bologna is a pretty spectacular rose in bloom with a wonderful fragrance. Mine only bloomed a few short weeks, and I couldn't keep such a brief blooming rose in my small garden. It was very sad to give it up.

I don't know what to make of the striped once bloomers- If i ever had the space Commandant Beaurepaire looks nice. It is said to have a few scattered blooms after the main flush.

My Vick's Caprice arrived from ARE a few weeks ago. On HMF I read it may revert back to a solid color too.
Brandon Garner thanked berrypiez6b
seasiderooftop
last year
Thanks Magpie, that's good to know! I hope it eventually gets to be the right weather for her to show her stripes. If not I might try contacting Avramis to ask them if they have any suggestions.

Pink Ekrixis is a sport, but unlike Variegata di Bologna, the original Ekrixis is striped and splotched too, just a different background color (burgundy) so at least I know it's not a reversion... Wait and see I guess!
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berrypiez6b
last year
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Maybe that's what keeps me intrigued by gardening; I can't always control the outcome and there will be some unexpected surprises.
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Brandon Garner
Original Author
last year
I was looking at the seller's website ( i like this company so i would rather not say where I got it from) and saw a picture of Souvenir du President Lincoln, which happens to be the rose next to Variegata di Bologna when you have the page filtered to show just the Bourbon class. Could this be Souvenir du President Lincoln?
strawchicago z5
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Back in 2013 I grew Souvenir du President Lincoln (own-root from Heirloom Roses), and your pic. looks like it. My Souvenir du President Lincoln's 1st bloom was VERY FRAGRANT, the scent is similar to Young Lycidas and Madame Isaac Pereire: it's old rose with a touch of raspberry.
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