Need ID on very old mystery rose in my garden
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Comments (53)Oh, goody - I like having mysteries! Re the buff color - it turns out it ONLY does that in dark shade, where my original one is. The mature one growing in the sun does not do that - it blooms fade to white, not buff. So, trospero, I'll bet you have never seen blooms of Awakening which have grown in full shade. Re the petal configuration, it changes constantly - I will post some more pics of the one at my SIL's house. I understand the timing issue re Awakening, but if a rose sports once, why can it not sport the same way in another location? I am ignorant - don't know the odds, but I have heard of that happening. Do any of you think it is New Dawn? I ask because 2 people at the Celebration of Roses told me "it looks similar to New Dawn, but it is NOT New Dawn".. I have learned over the years that the old mystery roses which were planted in my garden by my DH's ancestors were popular roses when they were planted. They got them, I am told, at the West End Nursery in San Rafael (which turns out to be the oldest still operating nursery in California). My point is, New Dawn is just the sort of rose they would have planted, and perhaps it sported to Awakening just like the Czech one did? Here is another pic from my SIL's one - Jackie...See MoreHelp with ID/care of very old rose bush
Comments (12)You say it could be 30 or more years old? Then I'd say you have no need to worry about saving it. It's proved it's a survivor! I have no idea what rose it is but it looks like a modern climber of some sort. You can prune off dead wood any time of year. To tell if a cane is alive or not snip a couple inches off the tip of the cane and look at the inside. If it's a greenish white color and looks moist it's alive. If it's brown or tan snip off a little further down and check. Keep doing this down the cane until you see that clear, healthy center. Clean up those broken canes at the base. You want clean cuts that you can seal with glue or nail polish so pests and diseases can't get in. Make your cuts at about a 45 degree angle just above a leaf node if possible. Otherwise I would not prune it any further now. Roses store their energy to come out of winter in the canes. Early spring is the best time to do any kind of hard pruning on a rose. When it comes out of dormancy it will be raring to grow and will fill back out quickly. When it blooms next spring get clear close up pictures of the buds, half open blooms and fully open blooms as well as the leaves, canes, thorns and whole bush. Then we might be able to ID it for you....See MoreProbable old garden rose ID help request
Comments (8)What makes this harder is if you look at the help me find for the really early noisettes/the r. Moschata crosses it really seems that there is either a lot of variety in how the different cultivars express themselves or there are several misidentified photos. I really thought I had found it once- turns out the plant it most looks like to me is dr. Malcom Manners's open-pollinated seedling Xochimilco! Thanks for your suggestions! It's so hard when there aren't really strict botanical pictures of roses available. I keep thinking "well the flowers are close but what do it's thorns look like?"...See MoreNeed ID for this very old flowering bush
Comments (3)Bingo! Thank you so much! I googled them, and of course some sites said they only grew to zone 8 warmest - HA! We are zone 9 heading lately towards zone 10 - I never pay attention to the top heat zone for plants, unless it is below 8. Jackie...See MoreSheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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