Smg succulemts have fantastic prices....you get about 5-6 2" chicks for average price of $3.75 per named variety. my personal order came as chicks with chicks....there 27 in my pot of "nouveau pastel" and 6 2" and a combined total of 18 chicks with semp "Rosalind" I buy the semp cuttings as well. Some will be .5" to 2". (Not many are .5 unless they are a very small variety anyway). I get 50 for $20! They always have a semp on sale at $2.50. All come in a brown bag with label bare root. I really like SMG. I wouldn't buy anywhere else based on product for cost. I DID pick up four of those walmart strawberry pots of common semps....AND they had carrying packs? Not sure what to call it. Planters were oblong, about 10" X 5" with a plastic Handle. They had cobweb varieties, HUGE Reds with beautiful watermarks...some of a blue tint..,all BIG VARIETIES. I got 7 packs of those and counted as I separated....16 varieties in all once divided....reds, grays...cobwebs...some fringed...some small, most large. I had so many I gave lots away for Mother's Day in containers I made up for friends. Not too bad for walmart!!! Of course I keep my named varieties separate and my cuttings from SMG separate as well, (the cuttings are named semps...you just don't get the names of them lol...so definitely nice to look at and I can always use a photo once mature to have them identified). I used the bulk semps to fill an old birdbath, lots of planters. An old rusty tonka truck. One day maybe I will have enough established to trade!! This is my second year "collecting" and my first year to purchase named varieties. :) once again. SMG. U can't go wrong!! Click on specials first to see what the sale is....then click sempervivum to get to the cuttings area....then u can choose semps a-z hybrids as well as basic semp non hybrid. They have a good variety of sedum as well as a few non hardy tender succulents. They carry jovibarba as well!!! Super great place and nice folks on their Facebook page too!

While hot summers won't be a problem, you might experince some problems during winter. Semps do need winter rest, and they are quite capable of surviving minus 20 degrees celsius under a mether of snow. Mild winters have a different affect on them. Give them water from time to time, when the rosettes close up. I myself am zone 4 or saomething like that, have more than 1.200 different semps. While some are unknown / lost labeled, I also have named species and cultivars. Here's the list of my semps & jovis. Will have first year's chicks for exchange in late August (preferably September). SEMPERVIVUM CULTIVARS: ACHALM ALCHIMIST ALI ALICE ALINE ALMAROOS ALPHA AMETHYST ANAK KRAKATAU ANDRENOR ANTERICUM ANTJE APACHE APOLLO APPLE BLOSSOM ARNO ASHES OF ROSES ASTRID ATHEN ATLANTIS AUREUM AYMON CORREVON BANDI BARBOURY COAST BARONESSE BEAUTIFUL BEDIVERE BELLADONNA BETSY BLACK PRINCE BLARI BLOOD TIP BLUE BOY BLUE ICE BLUE LIGHT BLUE MOON BLUSHING BOROMIR BRAND NEW HEAVIES BRAUNBÄR BRAUNKUGEL BRITTA BRONCO BRONZE PASTEL BROWN FLUSH BROWN OWL BUTTERBUR BUTTERFLY CANCER (synonim CORONA) CANDY FLOSS CARUSO CASABLANCA CASAS CORQUE (maybe CANSAS GORGE) CASCADE CASSIOPEA CENTURIAN CHAROKEE CHERRY TART CHOCOLATE (A. Smith S. marmoreum Bruneifolium dark form) CLARE CLEVELAND MORGAN COLIMA COLLECTOR ANCHISII COMMANDER HAY CONO CORONA (see: CANCER) CORONET CORREVON CORSAIR CRESTA CRIPELLO CROWS CUPREOIDES CYRHAM DAKOTA DANIELLA DARK BEAUTY DARK POINT DEGENIANUM (wrong for S. x degenianum) DELTA DESDEMONA DIANE DIMBORO DIRECTOR JACOBS DISCO DOWNLAND QUEEN DR. ZONNEVELD DRAGONESS DUKE OF WINDSOR DUNKEL ROT EBERTINA EIGI EISBÄR EL MISTI ELANIE ELENA ELISABETH ELVA EMMELINE EPENDA EREBUS ERONGO ESTELLE EUGENIA EXCALIBUR EXCELENCE EXORNA FEUERRAD FILOU FIREFLY FLAMING HEART FLASHER FLOWER POWER FONTANAE FORD GIANT FORD'S AMABILITY FORD'S GIANT FORD'S SPRING FRODO FUEGO FUZZY WUZZY GALAHAD GALAXIS GAMMA GAY JESTER GAY SESTER (?) GELINA GIMSON VELVET GIUSEPII GLACIER GLORIOSUM GODDEDARD GOLD AUB GOLIATH GOLLUM GRANAT GRAUGONG GRAUPURPUR GREEN APPLE GREEN CAVO GREEN GABLES GREY DAWN GREY LADY GREY OWL GREY VELVET GRÜNRAND GRÜNSPAN GUNTHER GUISEPPI GYPSY HABANNA HAIDE HALEMAUMAU HANS HAPPY BIRTHDAY HART HAULLAUER´S SEEDLING HAVENDIJKER ABENDROT HAVENDIJKER FEST HAVENDIJKER KAI HAVENDIJKER KIRMES HAVENDIJKER KLAUSNER HAVENDIJKER LEGION HAVENDIJKER LEONARD HAVENDIJKER LOHE HAVENDIJKER SPLITT HAVENDIJKER TEUFEL HAVENDIJKS BEUTE HAVENDIJKS FLUSH HAVENDIJKS GIANT HAVENDIJKS NEXT HAVENDIJKS PERFECTION HAVENDIJKS BEAR HAVENDIJKS BEAUTY HAVENDIJKS BLACK HAVENDIJKS BRONZE HAVENDIJKS BRUNETTE HAVENDIJKS CRIMSON HAVENDIJKS DIAMANT HAVENDIJKS FIRE HAVENDIJKS FIRST HAVENDIJKS FIRST WEB HAVENDIJKS KNIGHT HAVENDIJKS LEOPARD HAVENDIJKS MILKY WAY HAVENDIJKS MILLENNIUM HAVENDIJKS MIST HAVENDIJKS MOUNTAIN HAVENDIJKS NR. 1 HAVENDIJKS NR. 4 HAVENDIJKS PRIDE HAVENDIJKS RED HAVENDIJKS SPRING HAVENDIJKS WEB HAYLING HEIDI HEIGHAM RED HEIKO HEKLA HERMANN NAPFEL HEY-HEY HOOKERI HUNSRÜCK HYDRA ICICLE INCA IPF IRAZU IROKESE ISABELLA IWO JANKO & IRENKA JET STREAM JEWEL CASE JUBILEE JUPP JUPPITER JURRINA KANSAS KAPPA KASSIKAPP KATINGA KATMAI KELPONE KELUT KIARA KIBO KIKI KIMONO KING GEORGE KINSEAR KIP KOBAYASHI RED KOHALA KOSMODIO KRAFLA KRAMER'S SPINRAD KRATER KUGELBLITZ KYLIE MINOGUE LADY KELLY LAMOTTEI LANCELOT LAVANDER AND OLD LACE LEE LEGOLAS LEOCADIA'S NEPHEW LIESBETH LILAC TIME LIME LIGHT LIPARI LIPSTICK LIVELY BUG LOTT LOTT LÖWENHERZ LYRA MAHOGANY MAIGRET MAJESTIC MAJOR MAKABOE MANUEL MARA MARELLA MARMOREUM MARSALA MAUNA KEA MAUNA LOA MAX FREI MAYA MECKI MELANIE MENUET MERKUR META MIGNON MISTI MOLLY MONTE SICO MOUNT HOOD MYSTIC NADELLA NATHAN NAVAJO NEMRUT DAG NEPTUNE NEVIS NICO NIDAS NIGHT RAVEN NIOBE NOBBE NOCTURNO NOIR NORA ODITTY OHIO BURGUNDY OLD ROSE OLIVETTE ORDENSTERN ORION ORIZABA OTHELLO PACIFIC BLUE ICE PACIFIC DEVELS FOOD PACIFIC HAIRY HEP PACIFIC RED ROSE PACIFIC RIM PACIFIC SEXY PACIFIC SHADOWS PACKARDIAN PAGRO PALLAS PAMIR PANAREA PANDA PARICUTIN PATRAS PATRICIAN PAX PEKINESE PESCADO PETIT RENEE PFEFERKUCHEN PILTI PINGO PINK JENNY PIPPIN PIRI PITON PLAMENY PLUMB ROSE PROUD ZELDA PRUHONICE PURDY PURDY'S 80-5 PURDY'S 90-1 QUAX RACEY RAMESIS RASPBERRY ICE RAUCHER KÜLM RAUHREIF RED ACE RED CHIEF RED DELTA RED DEMON RED WINGS REGIS FERNANDII REINHARD RENATA RHEIN KIESEL RHONE RIHAMA RITA JANE ROBIN ROHNSDORF HYBRID ROMANZE RONNY RONSDORF ROTER ZWERG ROTKOPF ROTMANTEL ROTSANDERSTEINRIESE ROTSTRAHL ROYAL OPERA RUBENS RUBIN from Freehsdorf RUBRA ASH RUSTY SABINA SAITAMA SANCY SEEROSENSTERN SEMINOLE SHAMPOO SHAURI SHIRLEY JOY SHIRLEY'S JOY SIGI SILBERCARNEOL SILBERSPITZ SILVER SONG SILVER THAW SIOUX SIR WILLIAM LAWRENCE SMARAGD SMOKEY SMOKEY JET SPANISH DANCER SPHERETTE SPONDIAS SPONNIER SPRITE STARSHINE STERNSCHNUPPE STETSON ST. HELRNS STRIDER SULTAN SUPRISE SUPER DOME SYLVIA TAARA TITANIA TECK TEDERHEID TEIDE TERRACOTA BABY TIP TOP TITANIA TOPAZ TOURMALINE T'POL TRACI SUE TRISTAN TRIUMPH UTOPIAN VAIKE VICTORIAN VILLOSUM VIOLASCENS VIOLETTA VIRGIL VITI VLADO WALPURGE WASCBÄR WEEPSAKE WEISSE FEDER WHITENING WICHITA WINTER BEAUTY WOLCOTS VARIETY XERXES YOLANDA ZELCA ZHANE ZILVER FOX COTE ZIMTSTERN ZULU SEMPERVIVUM SPECIES: S. andreanum (syn. S. tectorum ssp. alpinum) S. annae coll. Omala S. annetiense n.n. S. antericum S. apeninum S. arachnoideum S. arachnoideum coll. Austria S. arachnoideum coll. Dolomitok/Passo di Fedaia S. arachnoideum coll. Saas Fee, Switzerland S. arachnoideum coll. Salardu /Pyrenees S. arachnoideum coll. Andorra S. arachnoideum cv. HOOKERI S. arachnoideum cv. KAPPA S. arachnoideum cv. ORDENSTERN S. arachnoideum cv. SULTAN S. arachnoideum f. webbianum cv. AUREUM S. arachnoideum f. webbianum cv. ICICLE S. arachnoideum rubrum S. arachnoideum tomentosum S. arachnoideum v. bryoides S. arachnoideum v. glabrescens f. album S. arachnoideum v. gnaphalium S. arachnoideum v. laggeri S. arachnoideum v. oligotrichum S. arachnoideum v. sanguineum S. arachnoideum v. tomentosum S. arachnoideum x montanum S. arachnoideum x nevadense from Sierra Nevada S. armenum / S. armenicum S. atlanticum S.atlanticum coll. TIZINTICHA S. atroviolaceum S. atroviolaceum RUBRUM S. balcanicum S. balsii S. brownii S. calabricum hort. S. calcareum EXTRA S. calcereum S. calcareum Greenii S. calcareum LITTLE S. calcareum Sir William Lawrence S. calcareum Spinulifolium S. calcareum coll. Guillaumes S. cantabricum S. cantabricum coll. Leitariegos S. cantabricum ssp. guadarramense from Lobo No.1 S. cantabricum ssp. urbionense coll. Gaton S. cantabricum x montanum v. stiriacum S. caucasicum S. caucasicum coll. Dagesztán S. caucasicum coll. Dombai S. charadzeae S. charadzeae coll. Ober Raca S. cilicium (?) S. ciliosum S. ciliosum coll. Ali Botush S. ciliosum v. bandericianum S. ciliosum x erythraeum S. clusianum Abruzzi S. cornuta S. davisii coll. Agri Dagi S. dolomiticum S. dominii coll. Teberda-Dombai között, 1600 m S. erythraeum S. erythraeum coll. Pirin S. from Pireneusok (?) S. giuseppii S. glaciale S. graecum (hort.) S. grandiflorum S. grandiflorum coll. Nufennen Pass S. ingwersenii S. iranicum PF 2976 coll. Ardanuc S. ispartae S. italicum coll. Mt. Contento-Simbruini/Ol. S. juwanii S. kindingeri coll. Macedonia S. leucanthum coll. Grúzia S. longum S. macedonicum S. marmoreum bruneifolium S. marmoreum coll. Börzsöny S. marmoreum coll. Bükk-Molnár szikla S. marmoreum coll. Rila S. marmoreum f. patentifrons S. marmoreum Mahagoni S. marmoreum Michaelis Borsii S. marmoreum ssp. erythraeum coll. PIRIN S. marmoreum v.brunneifolium S. marmoreum v. blandum coll. Ljubjana (?) S. marmoreum v. blandum coll. Prokletje S. marmoreum v. dinaricum S. marmoreum x cv. Pinellii S. matricum coll. Kamenica nad Hronom, Slovakia S 982-A S. metallicum cv. Giganteum S. milebrandtii S. montanum coll. Magas-Tátra S. montanum ssp. carpathicum from Kralovany, Slovakia S 953-A S. montanum ssp. carpatichicum from Jastrabska skala, Slovakia S 053-A S. montanum ssp. erythraeum ex Rila S. montanum ssp. montanum from Daxnerovo sedlo, Slovakia S 023-A S. montanum Stilfser Jack S. montanum v. burnattii coll. French Alps S. moserianum S. nevadense S. octopodes S. octopodes v. apetalum S. pitonii S. pumilum S. rainardii S. roseum S. sp. Kovacovske vrchy/Cs. S. sanguineum S. smrzianum S. stiriacum coll. Maltatal, Austria S 0410-F S. striacum v. praegerls S. tectorum S. tectorum »Violaceum« S. tectorum atrosanguineum S. tectorum Lancelot S. tectorum monstrosum S. tectorum Atropurpureum S. tectorum Atroviolaceum S. tectorum Monstrosum S. tectorum Robustum S. tectorum Royanum S. tectorum rubra S. tectorum Typ Feldmayer S. tectorum v. juratense S. tectorum v. pyrenaicum S. tectorum v. rubra S. tectorum v. validum S. tectorum Villosum S. thompsonii S. thompsonii S. tomentosum S. tometosum S. transcaucasicum S. webbianum S. wulfenii S. wulfenii from Riegersburs, Austria S 046-A S. wulfenii x montanum S. zeleborii (synonim S. ruthenicum) Natural Sempervivum hybrids: S. x adenotrichum from Mt. Ferrant S. x albidae S. x albidum (S. tectorum x wulfenii) S. x albidum (wulfenii x grandiflorum) S. x angustifolium S. x braunii (montanum x wulfenii) S. x comollii Rota (wulfenii x tectorum) S. x fauconnettii (arachnoideum x tectorum) S. x fimbriatum (arachn. x wulfenii) S. x fontanae (arachn. x tect. v. glaucum) S. x funckii S. x funckii x aracnoideum S. x hybridum (arachnoideum x tectorum) S. x versicolor Typ A Ex JOVIBARBA: J. allionii J. allionii coll. Esteng J. allionii coll.Esteng x hirta from Biele Karpaty (cv. OKI") J. allionii x hirta v. glabrescens from Smeryouka J. allionii x sobolifera J. arenaria J. heuffelii (two from different sources) J. heuffelii kopaonikense J. heuffelii APACHE J. heuffelii coll. Pasina Glava / former Yugoslavia J. heuffelii coll. Pelister, ex Yugoslavia J. heuffelii coll. Pirin Vichren/Bulgaria J. heuffelii coll. Rila J. heuffelii Regina - Ameliae J. heuffelii cv. Fandango J. heuffelii cv. Xanthoheuff J. heuffelii v. kopaonikense J. hirta J. hirta coll. Bélkõ/Bükk J. hirta coll. Budai hegység J. hirta coll. Durmitor J. hirta coll. Harsányhegy J. hirta HEDGEHOG J. hirta glauca J. hirta coll. Mecsek J. hirta coll. Odorvár/Bükk J. hirta coll. SMERYONKA - SMERYOUKA J. hirta coll. Szekrényes hegy J. hirta f. rubra J. hirta purpurea J. hirta ssp. glabrescens from Ducove, Slovakia S 901-A J. hirta ssp. hirta J. hirta ssp. hirta from Stratenska Jaskyna, Slovakia S 891-A J. hirta ssp. tatrensis coll. Klak, Slovakia S 021-J J. hirta v. glabrescens J. hirta v. neilreichii J. hirta v. preissiana J. hirta x sobolifera cv. Emerald Spring J. sobolifera J. sobolifera from Palava Mts /Czech Rep. J. sobolifera JH 198 coll. St. Martin, 630m /Austria J. sobolifera JH 200 coll. Gross Gerungd J. x mitchellii cv. Sandy J. globiferassp. hirtum J. globiferum BLUTROT J. globiferum sssp. allionii J. globiferum ssp. arenarium J. globiferum ssp. globiferum Will also swap lost labels sempervivums (semps with no name) have cca 250 different! Special offer for swapping unnamed (lost labels) species and cultivars in 2007 - you get doubled number of semps you sent in exchange (for example, you sent 10 & get 20, you send 26 & get 52 etc.!)

Cat....I think I stick to tried and true entirely too much. I think I should be trying to find something a little different to grow like you and Bill. I've never heard of guinea hen flowers. I do like toad lilies but I tried one and it didn't make it through my winter. I hope you will post photos later. Bill...I never saw a slug in my yard until last year. We had a lot of rain that wouldn't let up and they started showing up. Where do they come from, out of nowhere? [g] You remind me of me... when I can't sleep in the summer, I will get up and go out in my pjs with the flashlight and a paper cup and look for earwigs, which I hate! They seem to love me for some reason. Just the same I enjoy being out there at that hour. You get to see all the night creatures and some of the fragrant plants make the trip worth it. And if there is a moon out, a warm breeze and it's very quiet, it's almost magical! And you can't see all your mistakes at night. [g]

Put them in the ground (or containers if you prefer), but they should be fine in the ground as long as they drain. I hear you about the constant rainfall and humidity of the last year or so, but as long as your soil drains, should be good. Raised beds are also a big advantage in growing arid loving plants in wet zones. And remember, conditions change, eventually, in drought, they will get the advantage.