poncurusguy, I sure hope that this one will grow fast. I heard that FW NZL is a fairly vigorous tree. Unfortunately, there is no rootstock info from FW. Denise, fortunately for me, I live just 1.5-hour drive away from FW and it was not a concern. However, I was worried to receive an unhealthy tree since last NZL September batch was pretty bad but this tree is very healthy looking. Molewacker, a good question about hardiness. Hopefully, someone will know something. I am still thinking whether to inground or container it next summer/fall. I have an interesting microclimate. We are protected by Mount Diablo (fewer cold winds from SF bay and my house is just one mile away from the Delta (temperature control). So, cold California nights are slightly warmer here :)

I am aware that you are not joking because you are growing from seed. Most of my plants are from seed so seedless fruits would be useless to me too. What is funny is almost everyone but you and I want fruits without seeds. I have never hear any one say they hate seedless fruits till now. Steve

I am very limited on space both inside and outside in ground so I decided to stick with Meiwa kumquats. I received the other citrus varieties as gifts and have found that the NZL is worth growing. After all my original Meiwa seedlings died, Cory gifted me with 2 seedling Fukushu kumquats and a grafted Meiwa. My 4 seed grown Meiwa trees are from seeds from the grafted Meiwa. I had decided to quit on citrus and decided not to when some people offered trees they had extra. None of my original trees are alive anymore. It was a long learning curve where I lost over 300 citrus seedling. I had learned how but was done growing citrus. I now have 5 Meiwa 2 fukushu, 3 NZL, and a valentine pomelo. These are all varieties I cannot purchase at the store or market. I have not lost a tree since the learning curve ended. Steve

Jan Four winds uses C35. Their trees maybe a little weaker coming out of their screened in growing enclosures than others' trees. Silica That doesn't supersize me. I am still evaluating the 3 trees' fruits. One in ground tree against 2 in containers is not fair though. I was very surprised at how good the Seville NZL fruits were even though they had a lot of green still.\ Jaydub I would think you are correct, however in ground trees may exhibit a greater difference than container grown fruits. Steve