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Comments (20)TraCami - that is so funny!!! (I don't mean this in a mean way) :) I'm in zone 3...we still have snow everywhere. :) My roses are sleeping in the garage. So I have no idea how the soil is doing. :) It still hasn't arrived here. I would love to hear though how the mix is going for you. Please keep me updated. :) a1an - Yes, I overwinter my roses in the garage. It's quite easy. :) Which roses are you thinking about...and what zone are you in? Carol...See MoreScrewed Up And Ordered The Wrong Soil For My Potted Roses-Any Advice?
Comments (8)gardengal48 and Perma n’ Posies , Thank you so much! I feel so much better now! I'm glad you told me about the vermiculite because I am not an expert gardener in any shape or form. When I bought it, I heard vermiculite was good for airing out and lightening up the soil and for helping the soil hold onto the added nutrients and soil amendments. I figured it would help potted plants so that the added plant food and nutrients don't drain out of the pots and can stay in the pot longer so the plants can uptake those things more readily when needed. I read so many different things on the internet about different kinds of soil amendments that it confuses the heck out of me sometimes, lol. I have bone meal, blood meal, earthworm castings, Down to Earth Organic Rose & Flower Fertilizer Mix 4-8-4, 5 , garden lime and something called Tank's Green Stuff 100% Organic SuperMix Fertilizer which is very expensive and gets rave reviews from gardeners. I really like the ingredients in Tanks Green Stuff! Tank's 100% organic compost has: Heat Treated Chicken Manure, Bat Guano, Calcium, Zeolite, Gypsum, Biochar, Soy Meal, Feather Meal, Blood Meal, Kelp Meal, Trace Minerals, Seaweed Extract, Humic Acid, Worm Castings. ( N: 2 P: 2 K: 1 ) If the soil mix is heavy and not light and fluffy, I'll add some peat moss and perlite in to lighten it up a bit. Besides the peat moss and perlite, Is it ok to mix a little of the stuff I mentioned above in the soil too? If yes, how many cups or teaspoons should I mix into the soil and add to each 15 gallon pot? I want the soil in the pots to be light and fluffy and filled with lots of good stuff for the roses. I found the ingredients that the soil has: aged fir bark, fir bark, sawdust, composted green waste, peat moss, redwood sawdust, alfalfa meal, fishbone meal, bone meal, feather meal, kelp meal, kelp flour, dolomite lime, gypsum and wetting agent. My guess is that there isn't a huge percentage of those ingredients in the soil. It's probably mostly sticks/wood. Thankfully, I also found a write up where the company said this particular planting mix is also "designed for Indoor and outdoor containers". After I read that I felt relieved. Thanks so much again for your help and advice. I appreciate you both so much!...See MoreWould you plant own root roses now and/or in early Sept. in Zone 4a?
Comments (24)Addison, I am in a far warmer zone than yours...and people said to me, in very good faith, that I cannot plant tiny roses (bands) so late in fall (late Oct/Nov). Just put them in pots. I cannot stand overwintering pots. So for me, at that point, it became an experiment whether I can plant late into fall. I planted them in the ground. Those bands fared so well I gasped as they took off in spring. Your roses are hardy in your area. The roses I planted were border line hardy in my area. So I was playing at the edge, at least a little. Now, I dont know so much but I gather that the most important part of planting in fall/late fall is to get plenty of root growth started. As Flowers said the ground will be plenty warm and not freeze for quite a while so this will happen for you. I recommend two things, as I do believe these have contributed to my success. First, I dig a big hole and amended with a little fish bone meal, some organic granular fertilizer and almost 2 cups alfalfa pellets. The aa pellets being critical. These will very slowly breakdown and stimulate the plant's winter physiological processes. (Some of the breakdown pdts will be right there for the plant when it wakes up in spring). Second, I used a product called Dyna-Gro KLN Rooting Concentrate (from Amazon). I watered with the rooting concentrate at about 1-2 tsp per gallon every 5-7 days maybe 5 or 6 times. The rooting concentrate really works. I have used it on other occasions, it works so well it feels like cheating. (I have no affiliation with Dyna-Gro). My friend Addison, I am not an old hand at this. I do like to experiment, more like take risks. I dont know if your roses will make it over the winter in the ground. I think chances are they will. Give them the edge on getting the rooting started. Just mentioning, if it is an issue for you. I learned from Seil not to worry about adding organic, slow release fertilizers to the soil in fall. Its just like planting in very fertile soil. Good luck! I was going to make a bad joke about the red sea but decided against it....See More16 own-roots in zone 5
Comments (73)@titian1 10b Sydney Thanks for your kind words :) I think part of the reason that Therese Bugnet, John Cabot and Mme. Plantier have done better than many others is that they're in locations that offered some shelter. And the other big part is luck I suppose! I'm so pleased to see some rose blooms after everything, I've been spending a lot of time just staring and photographing, appreciating. It was terrible weather but I'm glad to see which of my roses were tough enough to deal with it, that's very useful information. I'm sure you learned a lot as well, observing which plants handled your torrential rains. Which plants would you say did the best during your weather adversity?...See Morestrawchicago z5
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